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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-23 07:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #3276 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
You know, as someone who's body is not in synch with his gender, I have to say I really fucking hate the word "Trans" in and of itself because "Trans" is not a fucking identity. It's a state of being and by necessity a temporary one. You transition from being physically one thing to another, you don't transition into a "Trans". Trans means changing, a temporary state. I am not a trans-man. I am a man. I am not some special subgroup of man that needs considerations of my former identity, that needs to be identified as an other. I had a deformity with my body. It's mostly fixed. Nothing more to it than that.

I also really hate that people like me are the new gay people in the "Who it's trendy to be allies of today" ranking system.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Trans means across, beyond, or through.

And in use with "transgender" it means opposite of your biological sex. The meanings of words change.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Try telling that to tumblrites SJWs.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
I respect that you feel that way, but do you respect other people's identities? Do you feel that no one else can or should identify as a trans person?

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Other people going through a thing can do it however they want. But that is not who I'm having the problem with. It's rarely people in the same situation as me that talk about "Trans issues" these days. It used to be, but lately it seems to be people who've found a nice buzzword for people they can champion in order to feel like a better human being than everyone else. And this "If you don't call yourself trans then you're transphobic" bullshit that's been floating around can fuck right off and die. I'm not having a woman (It's so fucking often women. I don't know why) who never had to deal with their body fighting against them in this way tell me that because I experienced this thing it means I'm a different class of man and need to be treat differently and if I don't agree with her interpretation of my body then I am scum. Fuck That. I almost prefer the nineties.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
In that case, I feel you. People policing other people's identities suck.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
That's good and all, and I'm honestly happy that you're mostly where you want to be, but some of us haven't fixed it yet, so that's why we use the word. If you don't want it applied to you, that's cool. But don't shit on people who haven't reached the enlightened state that you have.

+1

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
some of us can't afford to transition, so we won't ever be "fixed." what else can we be but trans?

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

Or because of our jobs/families/life circumstances we'll never transition. Or because our secondary sexual characteristics are so ott that we would never in a million years pass as our actual gender even if we attempted to transition.

Me and my best friend are both trans and dealing with the second thing. She's about 6'7" and built like a football player, and I'm a dude and I got all the stereotypically feminine traits like microscopically small hands and feet, unusually wide hips, teeny tiny shoulders, teeny tiny ribcage, no jawline at all, etc. Hormones can only do so much when you're a full-grown adult and neither of us can afford to deal with the consequences of not passing.

Transitioning is great if you have money and a supportive job/family/friends and a body that's androgynous enough for it all to work. But lots of us will never be able to.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Well like I don't think anyone who identifies as "trans" or supports "trans" rights disagrees with the root of what you're saying? You shouldn't have to do that. But too many other people don't get it and that's why the "trans" qualifier came about. Blame the society that decided sex and gender were the same thing, not the people who needed a label to escape from that.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds like you ARE a trans man. If you were born in the opposite sex's body, then the "trans" refers to the distance between that and your identified gender.

Trans is an identity, because we're discussing gender identity. You don't have to tell people you're a "trans man", you can just say "man". But that doesn't mean you aren't trans.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
you don't get to dictate other people's identities

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
I understand that. I had a discussion with a lesbian who hated the word queer being applied to her. She wants to be called a lesbian and always refers to queer organizations as lgbt+.

I use bisexual and queer interchangably but not pansexual. The words we use to describe ourselves are important.

As long as you are okay with other people using the word trans when talking about themselves, it's all cool.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
I'm cis, but I agree with you 100%

In fact, I have always found "trans" rather rude per se.

IF someone wants to talk about their transition and even want to use that word for some reasons that's ok, but other than that? A trans-man IS a man just like a trans-woma IS a woman, so the "trans" part is unnecessary.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you OP. the therapist I was legally required to see (oh USA, so progressive) keeps trying to get me to meet up with "trans" people and relate to them, I have about as much in common with another "trans" person as someone with psoriasis would have with someone else with psoriasis. it's not a part of my identity and never will be, it's a medical problem I got treatment for. I will never understand people who willingly hold onto this label, but that's just me.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like this whole "look, I'm totally trans! Look how trans I am!" is mostly cis people with no intention to ever transition who just have a fetish for the state of being pre-transition transexual because it's ~special~. Same way people who have trans headcanons for fandoms aren't actually doing it for inclusion or anything but because it's the current hip and trendy fetish du jour.