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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-24 03:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #3308 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3308 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-24 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it depends on how the story treats her. There's a difference between a character written to be a spoiled brat and a character written to be meant as sympathetic but a spoiled brat. I find it very easy to tell the difference because I've seen enough well written brats and badly written heroine brats.

Also it's laughable that whenever a male creates a bratty female character it's because of misogyny. If they're the only female character or they're written so that all the other women who act "properly" submissive get rewarded. yeah that's sexist. But just writing a bratty female character? Not sexist.

Forgive me for saying, but you sound young and like you haven't read much or only read a lot of one thing (badly written stuff).

(Anonymous) 2016-01-24 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
OP using the word "feisty" makes me guess they're talking about characters who are written as meant to be sympathetic and not seen as brats at all. They're not "bratty," they're feisty and you're supposed to think they're awesome! Or if they're called a brat in the story, they're a "lovable" brat and they never get punished in any way for being one.
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[personal profile] loracarol 2016-01-24 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Not OP, but yeah, this. I almost want to classify it is a subtrope of the draco in leather pants/ron the death eater phenomena.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-24 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
"I think it depends on how the story treats her. There's a difference between a character written to be a spoiled brat and a character written to be meant as sympathetic but a spoiled brat. I find it very easy to tell the difference because I've seen enough well written brats and badly written heroine brats."

Isn't that what the secret says? It specifically mentions female characters that are supposed to be feisty, strong characters (i.e. sympathetic) but don't come off well so instead they turn out like the "badly written heroine brats" you referred to.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-24 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
meh, a lot of mainstream stuff has spoiled brats as daughter characters. it really seems like the writer guys just kinda hatelove their daughters

(Anonymous) 2016-01-24 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It is a phase that many tween/teen girls go through. Boys have their own version of insufferable behaviour.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-25 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
This. Teenage boys and teenage girls are each obnoxious in their own way.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-24 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
That might be part of it, but I think a lot of it is just lazy writing where people fall back on stereotypes instead of taking the trouble to develop a well rounded character. Examples of well written teenage characters in media that isn't specifically YA are rare, and well written teenage girls are even rarer.