[ SECRET POST #433 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #433 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 80 secrets from Secret Submission Post #062.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 2 3 4 5 ] not!secrets, [ 1 2 ] not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 ] too big, [ 1 2 ] repeat, [ 1 ] personal attack.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

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[(Anonymous)]

21 You're forgetting the playerbase is batshit insane and the mods are incompetent to the nth degree. Have fun getting dogpiled about how very WRONG you are and how little you UNDERSTAND etc. etc.

Re: 21

[(Anonymous)]

Your bitterness is showing.

(your comment is especially hilarious when you see the grand total of three other comments about the secret, all of which are some variation of "I agree")

Re: 21

[(Anonymous)]

Your comment on page five is showing.

And that doesn't surprise me in the slightest. CFUDers have always been very proficient at telling themselves how very normal, unwanky and loving their community is - when it's in fact a pile of deceit, lies and bullying. You're just the newest in a long line of people deluding, nay, brainwashing themselves.

Re: 21

[hydr0phobia.livejournal.com]

Dude, chill.

Re: 21

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, come on! You're just very good at ignoring "unseemly" happenings. Doesn't mean they don't happen.

Re: 21

[hydr0phobia.livejournal.com]

Dude.

Chill.

Re: 21

[(Anonymous)]

You are a funny, funny person. Yes. OF COURSE there are assholes and wankers at CFUD. Because CFUD is full of, you know, people. The trick is, like in all parts of life to just not worry about those people.

Re: 21

[(Anonymous)]

It's kinda hard to ignore when the mods are the worst offenders.

Re: 21

[teleute12.livejournal.com]

Hey, I'm honestly sorry that whatever happened to you at CFUD was so upsetting. No one deserves to have been made so angry and unhappy by a pretendy fun time game. But - doesn't commenting here bring up all those feelings again? It seems to me it'd make you feel better sooner to just go do something else when you see a CFUD secret that upsets you, instead of drawing out the feelings by baiting people in the comments. Sorry again.

Re: 21

[(Anonymous)]

I'm still in CFUD, so no, this is not a butthurt former player. I *have* fun at CFUD, but only by playing with a very small, limited group of people - which means I play maybe 1/10th as much as the average CFUDer. But I *prefer* it that way because it means I don't have to deal with the majority of total asstards who keep attacking other players right, left and center.

I've subtly tried to change people's behavior or at least make them consider other peoples' feelings, but it's all fruitless because the offenders just keep reinforcing themselves in their atrocious behavior. It'd be nice if the mods interfered and put their feet down, but as I've said before - they're among the worst offenders.

Re: 21

[(Anonymous)]

Sooo you hate everyone in the game but stay there and wank in fandomsecrets?

Have you considered taking up stamp-collecting? Crochet? Baking?

Re: 21

[(Anonymous)]

So if you're part fo the playerbase, I guess that means you're all the things you're accusing everyone else as being. And if you're so bitter and hate everyone, why not just leave?

I don't even RP there or particularly like it, but come on. This is hitting all the points of the "how to troll succesfully" list, so I'm having trouble taking you seriously.

Re: 21

[crystaldawn.livejournal.com]

No, that was my comment.

If I'd felt it necessary to comment to this before now, I'd have done it logged in.

Re: 21

[(Anonymous)]

Do you tell yourself that you're normal, unwanky, and loving, too?

Re: 21

[(Anonymous)]

I've given up on it. Damned if I try to be a nice person, damned if I don't.

Re: 21

[(Anonymous)]

Cry moar.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, if getting that upset about roleplaying in a zombie summer camp is sad, then getting upset about other people roleplaying in a zombie summer camp is worse. It's a stupid thing to get all in a twist over.

Relaaaaaaax.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

You know what? Tell the people who were mobbed out, harassed, banned, godmoded, treated like dirt and/or anon-ninja'd/stalked. I'm fairly sure they have their own two cents to add.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

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Re: 21

[(Anonymous)]

...People are agreeing with the secret, actually.

Replying here 'cause I'll just get confused otherwise

[moebot.livejournal.com]

Okay, let me preface this by saying that I don't want to attack you at all, so please don't take my comment as such. I'm genuinely feeling for you here, because you've gotten a lot of negative comments--which, to be fair, some I think that are deserved and non-wanky, but there are others that go right over the line, and that is really bad.

However... the comments you're making are kind of hurtful. Maybe we just hang in vastly different circles in the game or something, but I don't see this behaviour nearly as much as you seem to, so I can't help but think maybe this is hyperbole? Like I said, I don't want to attack you, I want to understand where you're coming from because I get really upset with other people are upset. I like to think that I'm not deluding or "brainwashing" (and by the way, ouch :/) myself when I say that I don't notice widespread "atrocious" behaviour; there is some bitchiness, I don't think anyone will deny that (I have, in fact, called several people on it, and it was no big deal, no hard feelings, etc). People are only human, after all, and there's over a hundred players with diverse personalities, backgrounds, and style, and there are many many opportunities for all these things to just clash and make a big old mess. I just... don't understand what you're trying to accomplish here by replying to this secret, which had nothing much to do with your original comment. Making sweeping statements about a group of people is going to put those people on edge, just like I'm sure the mean comments that have been directed towards you (both in the past and here) have put you on edge.

In short, I think empathy is the key. I'm sorry something bad happened to you. But I really do think that your comments here demonstrate a sort of behaviour that makes me uncomfortable in a way you were probably made uncomfortable by the original comments you got, so no one's really winning the nicer-than-thou war now, huh? It's just a mess.

I know you don't want to reveal yourself, but I suggest talking this out with someone you're tight with in the game (I know some people have offered to discuss this with you downthread), instead of bottling up all your rage and exploding in a public forum where a)it's inevitable you'll get negative feedback, continuing the vicious circle this seems to be, and b)you back yourself into a corner. I would offer myself, but the way you're talking about the rest of the game, I figure that there's maybe a 80-90% chance you hate me, so.

Good luck. I hope you don't take this as sarcasm, because I really do wish you luck in trying to sort these issues out. I just hope you choose a less hurtful way to do it next time.

Re: Replying here 'cause I'll just get confused otherwise

[(Anonymous)]

I know I overreacted a bit (okay, a lot) but as I said... uh... somewhere in this threaded mess, I'm angry about bullshit that happened to a VERY good friend of mine (and we were friends before we joined CFUD) in a way which denotes a whole lot of my CFUD experience just recently - and where I might have deserved it (in some twisted parallel universe some players seem to inhabit) she most certainly did not. I can only apologize.

In any case, I've calmed down a bit and will try to somehow sort out this whole mess. I'm tending towards dropping entirely currently, but I'm afraid of the unavoidable repercussions, especially if I did it so soon after this thread (and I'm fairly sure at least a good part of the IRC channel is watching this like a hawk). I can only try.

Re: Replying here 'cause I'll just get confused otherwise

[moebot.livejournal.com]

Some of the language here is still setting me a bit on edge, so I'm only going to reply to one thing:

If you want to leave, you should leave. If you want to stay, stay and try to move beyond this. People have volunteered to help (and I myself am volunteering, too) so you're not completely alone, and if you've got other friends to turn to, take advantage of that. If you're genuinely scared of whatever "repercussions" you feel will result from a potential drop, get someone to hold your hand through the process and discuss it beforehand with your good friends in the game, so that they know what the deal is; anyone who e-stalks or e-harrasses you sucks, so don't waste a thought on them. It really isn't worth it to stay in the game if it makes you feel this bad.

Re: 21

[xenoglossy]

Okay, I'm going to be honest, since honesty is what you apparently want. At least you'll know that I'm not being all nicey-nice while secretly thinking you're a fucktard.

Having read your comments further down the thread, I think I do understand where you're coming from. I've had similar problems -- to a lesser degree than you, but... yes, there are some less-than-pleasant people in the game. There are some people I'm not comfortable playing with anymore. I know what it's like to be scared of jumping new people. I know the game in general is not all sunshine and puppies and rainbows, and I am perfectly okay with acknowledging that, or with other people acknowledging that.

However, if you wanted to solve these problems, or at least not exacerbate them, this was exactly the wrong way to go about it. If you say "You guys are all terrible human beings and I hate you!" of course people are going to get defensive. And it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, because you'll point to all the people reacting (with, admittedly... varying degrees of civility) to what you said and go "See? See? I'm getting dogpiled because CFUDers can't stand when anyone insults their precious game! It's so typical of them!" Which... I guess it is, but only because it's only human to be upset when someone piles insults on a group of people of which you are a part. I'd like to think it's because of this that people are reacting the way they are, not because we can't stand when anyone implies that, omg, CFUD might not be all rainbows and sunshine and puppies!!!

... Then again, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe people will flame me for having said what I did in this comment, and if that's the case, then I'll humbly concede that you're right. But I really do think that how you're saying what you're saying is, at the very least, not improving the situation.

Sorry, I didn't mean to tl;dr there. Next time, I'll try to keep my thoughts more succinct.

Re: 21

[its-the-cape.livejournal.com]

After reading everything upthread, just uhm, hopping in to offer to be another person to talk to?

I don't know... Apparently people feel pushed from the game sometimes, and it's just something I wasn't even aware people were feeling until I recently found out someone I know felt that way and started to notice more sentiments of the same. ;;; It's kind of obvious this stuff goes on once you notice it but I can't say I've ever truly felt like I've been in the same situation. It's never happened to me before, so it might, uh, be frustrating to talk to me about something you feel so strongly about, but... Well, maybe I just think the sentiments you expressed were unfair to the people that've never been involved, but people that aren't involved don't get a voice so I... guess I want to get involved! Er, in a purely 'new avenue to vent/discuss/cool down' capacity that doesn't have to do with taking sides. Or something like that?

You'd probably rather take this to someone you're good friends with, but if you ever want an impartial party or just someone who's not likely to take any offense about any of it you can hit me up on my gmail? "itsthecape" is my gmail addy.