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⌈ Secret Post #3452 ⌋

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[Courage, the Cowardly Dog]



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[Vampire Princess Miyu]


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[Powerpuff Girls]


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[The Mummy and The Mummy Returns, Evelyn/Imhotep]


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[Orphan Black]


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[Lost in Translation]


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Comments

I hate this

[nonnymouscawitz]

I hate that she dates the same amount of people as any other girl her age and people go 'hahaha Taylor can't keep a man.'

I hate that she spent a long time single and then dated one guy for the past year and a half, and now that she MIGHT be with Hiddleston people are going 'hahaha Taylor's a slut who can't keep a man.'

And most of all I hate those creepy as fuck pictures, because if I was kissing a guy on the beach and someone secretly took a picture behind me and posted it in a goddamn magazine I'd be pissed. Celebrities are not your fucking toys, they are people who happen to enjoy producing media, and people pay them to do so. It's none of our business if Taylor kisses 0 guys or 600. It's none of our business if she has a literal line to her bedroom door. Goddamnit I hate paparazzi and media 'culture.'

Re: I hate this

[(Anonymous)]

I like how you don't think those pics were carefully planned. They are both benefiting from this media storm and they know exactly what they are doing. Celebs (esp Tom Hiddleston) don't get caught making out on a public beach unless they want to be caught.

Re: I hate this

[(Anonymous)]

On the other hand, it hardly makes it somehow villainous for Taylor Swift to act that way when you have a world that judges her shit as deeply as it does. Man, when people react this way to a carefully staged photo op, what the hell is she supposed to do?

Re: I hate this

[nonnymouscawitz]

1) You don't know that. You have no way of knowing that unless you secretly work with one of them. Celebs get caught doing things ALL THE TIME.

2) Alright, let's assume they did this on purpose. They went out to kiss knowing someone would take a pic. Unless the person taking the pic was told to do so BY THEM, they also don't know this and are therefor still taking pics of someone they think doesn't know, so that they can make money off of it. Still morally bankrupt!

And I go back to 3) Paparazzi culture is fucked up and yes, it's still possible this was not set up. It's summer. It's hot. People go to the beach. Don't sell their fucking pictures to magazines. Legal right and moral right are two different things.

Re: I hate this

[(Anonymous)]

It's not an attention grab when two adult people who want to be in a relationship simply decide not to expend significant effort to hide said relationship.

Did they know they were going to be photographed when they went to a public place and behaved affectionately towards each other? Presuming it actually was a public place, yeah, I'm sure they did know. But I don't know why anyone would ascribe any sort of negative motivations to their actions, when the simplest and most sensible explanation is that they simply don't feel like sneaking around when they're not actually doing anything wrong in the first place. So they picked their moment (which is basically the only control they have in this situation), and gave the paps their shot. It's what I would have done.

Re: I hate this

[(Anonymous)]

Lots of female celebrities date lots of guys without getting the kind of mockery Swift does. But I'm betting that the fact that she writes songs about her failed relationships is a significant part of why people feel like her love life is fair game for discussion.

Re: I hate this

[nonnymouscawitz]

It's one thing to discuss it, it's another thing to have the sheer amount of disgust I see (You know who else sings about failed relationships and doesn't get this level of hate for it? Adele, Rihanna, Katy Perry, Miranda Lambert, Sam Smith, literally anyone who has had a top 40s hit in the past decade...). And it's a COMPLETELY different ballgame to take secret photos.

Re: I hate this

[(Anonymous)]

Then again, they don't sing it like the guy deserves every bad thing they get for dumping them like Taylor does.

Picture to Burn -- She's going to tell his friends he's gay, date all his friends, burn photographic evidence of his existence.

Better Than Revenge -- Pretty much slut-shaming the new girlfriend of her ex while bitching about her ex.

Dear John -- She actually wrote it TO break up with the guy instead of even doing the decent thing and talking to him.

We are Never Ever Getting Back Together -- Literally her just being a BITCH about the guy.

So yeah, she's kind of had a history of being a bitch--and making sure to identify things about the guy in a song. Sure, Adele's stuff may be full of pointless pining, Katy Perry may do the bitchy thing on a less PERSONAL level, etc...but yeah. She does it PERSONALLY and on a BITCH level.

Mind you I'm not keen on a lot of Adele's stuff either, but yeah.

(Literally the only nice one she had about an ex was Back to December because she realized she'd been a bitch to Taylor Lautner by dumping HIM.)

Re: I hate this

[nonnymouscawitz]

Picture to Burn was written at age sixteen. I did stupid shit at 16.

Better than Revenge I have no excuse for and yes, it pisses me off too.

Dear John: Source, because I have literally never heard that and in fact heard that he broke up with her.

Never Ever is your typical pop break up song and is not any more bitchy than any other pop break up song.

I don't think she does too much identifying stuff these days unless it's positive or wistful.

"Literally the only nice one she had about an ex was Back to December because she realized she'd been a bitch to Taylor Lautner by dumping HIM."

I Wish You Would, Wildest Dreams, Tim McGraw, Breathe (which can also be interpreted as 'I did this'), The Other Side Of The Door has her openly admit to being irrational, The Way I Loved You refers to fighting but in a wistful manner, If This Was A Movie assigns blame to both parties, I Want You Back is VERY self hating, Last Kiss is wistful, as are I Almost Do, Red, and Sad Beautiful Tragic, and Style has an on-off relationship. Add in most of her 'positive' romantic songs being produced/released AFTER the break up. Don't test me on T-Swift knowledge, you will lose.

Re: I hate this

[(Anonymous)]

The number of times you use the word "bitch" in your comment gives me the solid impression that you're not actually worth replying to, but what the hell, I'm bored.

Picture to Burn -- She's going to tell his friends he's gay, date all his friends, burn photographic evidence of his existence.

The actual line is, "Go ahead and tell your friends I'm crazy, I'll tell mine your gay." First of all, Taylor cut that line from subsequent iterations of the track so as not to be offensive to LGB individuals. Secondly, we're talking about a guy who goes around spreading "crazy ex" rumors. It's emotional, and immature on both sides. But when two sixteen-year-olds break up, that's pretty standard. The "date all your friends" line is obviously tongue in cheek, but even if it weren't, so what? If Taylor wants to date all her ex's friends and they want to date her, that's completely her prerogative. And who the hell takes issue with someone burning their ex's pictures after a messy breakup? I've never done it myself, but if it's a comfort, I say more power to them.

Dear John -- She actually wrote it TO break up with the guy instead of even doing the decent thing and talking to him.

This is not accurate information. They had broken up. Then she wrote this song, in which she basically wrote down all the things she wanted to say, post breakup, as final parting words, and put them in a song. Presumably John Mayer didn't even hear the song until the better part of a year after they broke up, since they broke up in February 2010 and Speak Now didn't come out until October 2010.

We are Never Ever Getting Back Together -- Literally her just being a BITCH about the guy.

Lol, there isn't even any valid criticism here. This is just you stating an opinion you have based on your feelings.

Better Than Revenge -- Pretty much slut-shaming the new girlfriend of her ex while bitching about her ex.

Yeah, this song is not very nice. This was Taylor's "mean girl" song for sure. But seriously, I didn't become a feminist until I was twenty-one; I don't even want to think about what sort of slut-shamey things I might have said in high school, simply because I didn't realize how messed up and backwards they were. And I say that as someone who was almost never consciously mean to other kids. If Taylor Swift comes out with another song that echoes those sentiments now, I'll be a much harsher critic, but until then...meh, people grown and change and learn - teenagers especially.

making sure to identify things about the guy in a song.

The only songs that come to mind where she's actively hinted at the identity of who they're about are Dear John, Should've Said No, and Style. Of the two, Style is a fairly flattering depiction of both the person and the relationship, and given the shit John Mayer has said about his exes in the press, frankly, he probably deserved to have that song floating around out there. In the case of Should've Said No, the dude cheated, and it's a song about a guy cheating. Nothing wrong with that.

In the other cases where we feel like we know who a song's about, it's a case of Paps and Press putting Taylor Swift's life under a magnifying glass and thus giving the thirsty-for-gossip public every opportunity to make connections they would never be able to make if Taylor were afforded the modicum of privacy that any person rightfully deserves.

Re: I hate this

[(Anonymous)]

We are Never Ever Getting Back Together -- Literally her just being a BITCH about the guy.

That may be true, but at least it's funny as hell.

Re: I hate this

[(Anonymous)]

THIS.

I have been genuinely surprised and disgusted by the nasty, small-minded, judgmental, and frankly misogynist attitude so many people are trotting out with regards to this bit of celeb "news." I didn't think I could even be surprised by people having misogynist attitudes towards female celebs anymore, because it's something that's so constantly just there. But the sheer pettiness of it in this case, and the absolute willful determination people have to see everything regarding this young woman's life in the worst possible light is just mind boggling.

Re: I hate this

[nonnymouscawitz]

Yep. And they're not even factually accurate, she dated a handful of guys in her late teens/early twenties, but in the last 3 years or so there've been what, two?

Re: I hate this

[(Anonymous)]

Right!?

Like, okay, not that it's any of my business in the first place, but let's see...

Okay, so There was her relationship with Jake Gyllenhaal, which IIRC began some time in late 2010. And then Conor Kennedy was after that, right? And then Harry Styles. All of whom happened before Red was released in late 2012, given that both Jake and Harry are fairly well-established to be inspiration behind songs on that album. And then she was single for quite a while. And then Calvin Harris brings us up to two weeks ago. And now Tom Hiddleston (in some largely unknown capactiy).

So in five and a half years she's been with five guys. And in the last three and a half years she's only been with two guys, including Tom. Now personally I wouldn't care if she'd had sex with five HUNDRED guys in that time, as long as everybody was safe and everything was consensual. But what kind of an OTT slut-shaming asshole does one have to be to think that five guys in five and a half years is in any way "too many"?

Re: I hate this

[nonnymouscawitz]

Seriously! I don't care HOW MANY guys she's with, but she hasn't actually been with a whole lot, no more than any other woman her age. (I think you missed a Schwarzenegger, unless I imagined it, but that's only one more guy.)

Re: I hate this

[(Anonymous)]

I hate that she dates the same amount of people as any other girl her age

Wait, what?

Re: I hate this

[nonnymouscawitz]

The rest of that sentence was " and people go 'hahaha Taylor can't keep a man.'" Meaning I hate the way people REACT to her dating.

Re: I hate this

[(Anonymous)]

Seconding every last word of this post.

Re: I hate this

[nonnymouscawitz]

Thank you! Much appreciated.

Re: I hate this

[(Anonymous)]

And then you got some of us who think it's not slutty. Just that she's a huge bitch and her bitchy behavior is what makes her unable to keep a man. Well that and no one really wants a bitchy breakup song with personal deets.

Re: I hate this

[nonnymouscawitz]

Either you are the same anon from above, or you have really similar opinions, but I'll say what I said above, which was that much like most girls in their teens and early twenties, Taylor started off really bitter and angry about break ups and eventually grew up and started going 'I probably caused at least some of this and also I look back on our relationship fondly.' Basically midway through Speak Now (Back to December and Speak Now itself are both particularly rotten examples of her teen/early twenties outrage) and onward.

Re: I hate this

[tabaqui]

I agree. I don't 'follow' her or anything, but it seems that people mostly seem to talk about her dating a lot of guys. Well - so what? She's popular, presumably rich, pretty, and young. Why *shouldn't* she date all the guys she wants to? So fucking stupid.

Re: I hate this

[nonnymouscawitz]

Exactly. She's happy, she likes who she is, and people keep dating her so she can't be that horrible to spend time with.

Re: I hate this

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously, this. If I were famous and I had celebrities I thought were hot wanting to date me, hell, yeah, I'd jump on that.

Re: I hate this

[tabaqui]

Right? Fuck yeah.