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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-05-25 08:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3795 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3795 ⌋

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[personal profile] fscom 2017-05-26 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I’ve never had big, bereft feelings of emotion and despair over a musician’s death. My world hasn’t been rocked. I don’t feel like it’s an end of an era and nothing will ever be the same. It’s just sad in the way that all death sad.

I don’t even have the excuse that their heyday was before my time. I’m 34. That’s prime Chris Cornell age, and Bowie and Prince were big in my formative years. It’s just...I’m not invested. At best, I was indifferent to their music, at worst, I didn’t like it.

* Everyone I know has just been absolutely gutted by these deaths, and I just can’t relate.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Call me cynical, but I think for a lot of people, the reaction has more to do with being reminded of their own mortality and not missing the artist they didn't know and barely ever listened to.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Different people have different connections to different things, you know?

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
This. And it's okay.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I also can't relate, but that's because I've never felt overwhelming despair at any celebrity's death. Frankly, I find it a little obnoxious when people do, and even disrespectful, like you're trying to make it about you. I get being disappoint, surprised, and saddened to hear that a beloved figure died, but the dramatic attention-grabbing snot and tears is so annoying.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I guess it depends on how you go about it? I don't know Chris Cornell and I know Prince but am pretty ambivalent on Prince, but I adored Bowie. I wasn't garment rending, loud wailing, teeth gnashing sad when he passed, though I was sad because his music was part of my formative years and as a person he always seemed so confident and himself, which helped me do the same.

For people who had a lot more things personally going on in their lives where music means more to them than just something to listen to, I can see being despaired by that musician's death if it was something that helped them cope.

I however do find myself finding the public displays of over-dramatic written sobbing etc to be a little ridiculous. Not the heartfelt posts of 'so and so meant so much to me and got me through hard times' though.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
I only find those reactions appropriate if they were a HUGE fan of the departed, ie. X was their #1 favorite celebrity, X's work helped them get through a difficult point in their life, etc. If they just casually listened/watched/whatever and they make a big deal out of the death, it feels like they're just following everyone else.

I liked Bowie's music, but he wasn't my favorite artist. When I heard the news, I was saddened, but my thoughts instantly went to a friend of mine who was a huge fan (his music was inspired by Bowie's style, for one). He understandably took Bowie's death very hard, but for me to have that same reaction would have been inappropriate.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2017-05-26 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think being devastated, or even saying "I'm really devastated", is making it all about you...

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(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I was devastated by Bowie's death7, but that's because I've been a lifelong fan. Prince's death was tragic, but kess sad for me because I've never been that into him. I barely knew who Chris Cornell was and while I recognize the circumstances are terrible, I'm not bothered.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Cornell kind of hit me hard just because it was a suicide. He was never my all time fav (I like both Soundgarden and Audioslave but I wouldn't say I was hardcore about it) but being suicidal myself sometimes these things hit me.

Question, OP!

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Well, you can't help the way you feel, OP. Just curious, are there any particular musicians/celebrities that you think you would be upset of the deaths of? Is it just that you didn't feel any particular connection with these examples?

My dad is a massive Bowie fan and we bonded over his music, so we both shed a few tears over it. Same for Prince. I think dad still has some old camcorder footage of me dancing(?) to Partyman when I was 2, lol. My brother on the other hand is a lot like you; he just doesn't get emotionally attached to celebrities like a lot of people do. Different strokes. Not everyone will feel the death of a celebrity so personally, and that's normal, I just hope that even the people who don't can respect that their work played a huge part in the lives of others.

Re: Question, OP!

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 05:16 am (UTC)(link)
Of course they can, they're not stupid. Not liking the undercurrent here ("I just hope..even the people who don't") that not getting upset=being uncaring, unempathetic and dismissive.

Re: Question, OP!

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2017-05-26 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Personally I am just not really emotionally connected to celebrities at all, at least not the way a lot of people seem to be. I was sad to hear about Cornell - he was relatively young, talented, and suicide is always sad - but not really personally affected. I also tend to get way more attached to music than the artists who make it.

idk if I'd feel differently if it was something I was a huge fan of. I know a few songs by Cornell and his groups and I definitely think it's good music but I was never a hardcore fan.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
The one that got me recently was Robert Miles. It was just so unexpected. His music was a big part of my youth, but I'd kinda forgotten all about it and him, then the news broke he'd died of cancer and it just kinda took the wind out of my sails in a way I did not expect.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm pretty much the same way. Cornell's death should get me in some way just because I was in high school in the 90's and was all about the indie/grunge scene back then, but... it just doesn't bother me like it does some people.
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[personal profile] el_regrs 2017-05-26 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
You aren't devastated by the death of a musician whose music you don't even care about in the first place? Okay? Is that supposed to be a mystery or something? I don't get this secret at all.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like we get secrets like this every time there's a big celebrity death, and the comments are usually full of people trying to define their own feelings about it. So clearly there's something going on here, idk

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
I know, right? I feel like the rush of secrets post a celebrity's death about how the OP didn't care can be explained by a significant proportion of secret makers just not getting that other people feel really strongly about music. It's like a basic empathy disconnect.

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[personal profile] cactus_rs 2017-05-26 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
Me too, OP.

[personal profile] sachiko_san 2017-05-26 08:29 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, and?

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I was devastated about the deaths of Michael Jackson and later on Leonard Nimoy, but they're people who had an important impact on me during difficult years in my life where they were my only solace.

Sure, I can pop in a CD or DVD and there they are, but knowing those are all that is left of them kinda hurts.

Some celebs are like your parents to you-- you never imagine your parents dying until they do.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-26 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I was the same when Michael Jackson died. Everyone worldwide went apeshit. I couldn't have cared less.
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2017-05-26 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
It's ok not to be affected. I was and am a mega-Bowie fan but I don't care at all if his music wasn't your thing. I never really listened to Prince and I don't think I ever heard any of Chris Cornell's music so while it was sad that they died "before their time", it didn't really effect me tbqh.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-27 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
It's going to be differemt for everyone, and it's not always something that makes logical sense (e.g. related to how big a fan you were, and so on).

I was surprised by how sad I was over Prince's death, since I was never into his music much, but I'm from Minnesota, and also his death was so unnecessary. He was this amazing talent with a reputation for healthy living and he dies from an overdose.

I was a bigger fan of Bowie, and have fond memories of watching Labyrinth as a kid, but as much as it was a shock, his death was less sad to me. He had terminal cancer. What are you gonna do?

Despite being a 90s teen, I had never heard of Chris Cornell before he died, so...