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[ SECRET POST #4045 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4045 ⌋

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Comments like this are encouragement for people with suicidal thoughts to kill themselves. If someone says it's okay to kill yourself as long as you've done something bad enough, they'll start to convince themselves that they've done something bad enough.

I mean...he had over 50,000 pictures of child pornography. All prepubescent children. Should people be sad?

DA

Maybe not, but suicide isn't exactly cause to celebrate, either, is it?

I feel sad for his family.

I'll be sure not to say how little I care that he killed himself in front of his family.

Gonna go out on a limb here and say it probably wasn't his FAMILY's fault he was collecting child porn. Being vengeful towards them strikes me as both stupid and cruel.

But I'm not? I don't care he killed himself. In what was in that being vengeful towards his family???

Maybe not vengeful, but goddamn, is your empathy button broken.

Yeah, being glad that someone who hurts kids and knowingly does so is gone is so awful.

I'm sorry but if his family wasn't disgusted by his actions, there's something wrong here. Why should I feel empathy for them over the kids that were hurt?

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Did you feel sad for his family when they found out their loved one was a pedophile?

Like yeah even monsters have family- but the tragedy is just as much that they loved someone they didn't know was a monster, not just that he died.

Obviously it's a tragic situation for them all the way around.

Personally I would be more upset by a son's death than his actions, no matter how "monstrous" those actions. I wouldn't rank them as equally tragic. Death is final.

See to me, if I had a son who turned out to be a pedophile, I've already lost them, death or not. This isn't any old crime, he was involved in the exploitation of thousands of children. As young as three. How many of the children in those pictures died? How many will kill themselves one day? And my loved one was part of that?

There is no way I could see that that wasn't that the person I loved must have died a long time ago. The literal death would just be icing on the cake.

+1. This actually happened in our family--not my son, but a relative. He'll never get out of jail, and I really don't give a fuck. He might as well be dead.

lol, how noble of you.

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I'm a deeply suicidal person and I couldn't disagree more. There is no way to slice this that isn't him doing this to avoid the sentencing. That is not a mentally ill person acting due to their illness, it's a pedophile being confronted with consequences for his crime and running from them.

I agree.

The motive doesn't matter? It's not just about him. If you think it's okay for one person to commit suicide, you think it could be okay for anyone. By the way, I know this because I've also been suicidal. Surprise!

because not being sorry over someone who harmed kids with their actions means i have no empathy for other people who take their own lives.

it's almost like there's a huge difference between the two and you're being deliberately obtuse.

/another person who is suicidal and doesn't give two shits that people are glad this fuck is dead.

If you think it's okay for ~~one person~~ pedophiles to commit suicide, you think ~~it could be okay for anyone~~ the world's a better place for having fewer pedophiles.

Fixed that for you!

I'm guessing you're also a pedophile with all this jumping through hoops you're doing that, like, five other suicidal people have gone, "No, there's a pretty big difference between these things."

If you think it's okay for one person to commit suicide, you think it could be okay for anyone.

Man, talk about a logical fallacy! No I don't think that! Situations are different and motive does matter. Nothing happens in a vacuum anon. Way to put words in my mouth anon though.

And tbh, as a suicidal person, seeing a lot of people immediately willing to gloss over Mark Salling's disgusting crimes just because he killed himself makes me infinitely more uncomfortable than the people celebrating. It falls way to close to glamorizing it than I am comfortable with. You also having been suicidal does not change how I feel about this, or you.

Hey I've been suicidal! I've been suicidal for fucking years! :D I was suicidal earlier today, even!

I think it's okay for this guy to commit suicide. I think it's okay for ANYONE to commit suicide. It's a last resort measure for people who can't see any way out, or don't think they have the strength to continue on until "it (maybe) gets better." I don't do it bc I'm a bleeding heart who doesn't want to traumatize other people with my horrible corpse, but ultimately it's a personal choice.

But you know what's super shitty? Acting like Mark the Molester offing himself is some huge fucking tragedy because it was a suicide, and that we all need to tip-toe around it lest the people who self-identify too strongly with a fucking pedophile wind up feeling worse about themselves.

Why are you assuming that suicidal people will make the huge, tremendous leap of thinking that people who are glad a pedophile killed himself would also be glad a regular non-pedo killed themselves? Because I think that's a stretch. Like I said, I've been suicidal for years and I've never once heard about some fucking freakshow of a person killing themselves and seen the positive response and thought "gee whiz people are so glad that this horrible monster is dead, they must want me dead too~!"

+infinity.

I don’t care if other pedophilic monsters decide to relieve the world of their presence because of this, and it doesn’t trigger my own suicidal tendencies because I’m not a pedophilic monster.

Hi I'm suicidal a lot.

There's a difference between being okay with a pedophile dying and someone who is suicidal over grades dying. Even I can recognize that.

Quit with this, it comes across as pedophilia apologism.

Thank you. Also, it's important to point out that people can be attracted to children (which is a mental illness and not something they can help) WITHOUT ever actually acting on it and hurting real children either by physically doing it themselves or by participating in child pornography.

Uh. I’m not currently suicidal, but I have been. And, well, no. I actually used to argue myself, as well as friends and family who have wrestled with suicidal thoughts, out of beating themselves up quite so badly by saying “look, whatever fucked up shit your brain’s telling you right now, at least you haven’t eaten a puppy sandwich or lured kids into a panel van, so you can’t be as evil as you think you are.” I’ve seen people post that they’re suicidal on FS before and honestly if you want to help suicidal people on FS, engage those people in conversation and distract them with silly jokes. Don’t defend pedophiles. I had two family members commit suicide because they were raped by one so your reasoning rings really hollow.

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