[ SECRET POST #4071 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4071 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

07. https://i.imgur.com/yNq13Z4.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

That's literally what the movie is about

[philstar22]

What I came to say.

[(Anonymous)]

Why is it his responsibility to help other countries??

[(Anonymous)]

Why is it anyone's responsibility to help anyone else?

[(Anonymous)]

Idk should the US stop sending financial aid to other countries?

[(Anonymous)]

disney funded trump's campaign

[(Anonymous)]

I do think that there's one sense in which the movie is ill-served by the current political climate - I think Wakanda is supposed to invoke the idea of a utopia/paradise, and in the context of a fictional construct utopia/paradise, the idea of isolation makes more sense. Instead, I think the audience places Wakanda in the context of first-world nations and contemporary immigrant and refugee politics, and so the idea of Wakanda isolating itself seems much less sympathetic or justifiable.

[(Anonymous)]

"Why didn't a movie whose entire premise is literally what I'm talking about here, already have the issue solved beforehand?" Because the entire premise is literally what you are talking about yo. That's the point.

[nightscale]

And the movie is literally about this, T'Challa's arc is to realise that he can't keep Wakanda hidden away from the world anymore.

[morieris]

I'm going to give the OP the benefit of the doubt that....wait, no, Case takes new secrets every Saturday, so they very well made this after the movie came out.

[silverr]

Did you actually SEE the movie? The entire conflict of the movie was exactly the point you bring up in your secret, and last scene was literally showing that he's taken the first steps to bringing Wakanda out of hiding and beginning to give to help non-Wakandans.

[(Anonymous)]

on the one hand, it actually makes a lot of sense

Africa is hugely diverse and full of peoples with their own histories and enmities. I think it's Lupita Nyong'o who has talked about not being black in Africa, but instead being Ibgo or southern or what have you - the internal divides are what matter in that context. "Black" as an identity arises out of the experience of slavery and racism, and Pan-Africanism rises as a response to colonialism and decolonization.

Wakanda, as a nation that has never experienced any of those things, doesn't inherently feel a huge responsibility to other people/nations around them just because they happen to share some physical features and a giant landmass.

OTOH, if you aren't a troll, you definitely didn't watch the movie, because that is indeed the plot.

[(Anonymous)]

probably the most insightful comment on this thread

[(Anonymous)]

this is a good point, but I'm not sure how relevant it is to Black Panther, which seems to almost go out of its way to frame things around Blackness as an identity.

[(Anonymous)]

“How come no one’s pointing out...” Actually, I saw this exact idea pointed out on some conservative Twitter accounts.

[(Anonymous)]

That's the whole fucking point of the movie. Have you even seen it or were you too busy getting outraged to pay any attention to the fucking PLOT?

[(Anonymous)]

Are you sure you're not a troll? Because the alternative is that you're an idiot.

[thewakokid]

It could be said that not giving a fuck about the countries around them is WHY they were in a position to help them? Like, I feels there's a catch 22 there.

Be caring: lose all your shit: be caring enough to want to help, but not have the edge necessary to do it.

Be callous: Keep all your shit: be perfectly capable of helping people but be too callous to want to do it.

Like, that was the central conflict of the T'Challa. I don't know if he made the right call. Like, as evil as Kill mongers plan was, it was the smartest way anyone could have taken a third option.

Be a dick: Send out some of your shit with heavily armed motherfuckers: Help when able, but make DAMN SURE they are not in any position to take your shit from you after you helped them.

I personally side with T'Challa at the start of the film, he kept his shit and sent out lowkey help in small doses, small and not super effective, but small enough not to need a world wide invasion to keep a hold of.

[el_regrs]

:/

Did you... watch the movie?

[(Anonymous)]

This is the dumbest secret I've seen in a long time. Are you trolling?

[(Anonymous)]

Troll.

I doubt you dismissed any of the Iron Man movies with, "Why doesn't Tony Stark save America??"

[(Anonymous)]

While Wakanda has a lot of resources, it still wouldn't be easy to help other countries.

Let's take South Sudan, for instance, which probably isn't too far from Wakanda. Right now, South Sudan's in a civil war between the government and the SPLM-IO. If Wakanda tries to be impartial, they have to figure out how to negotiate a ceasefire not only between the two main factions, but also between smaller rebel groups that have splintered off.

Some of these groups might not come to the table. How does Wakanda handle that? Do they send troops? Well, then they suddenly look like colonialists. Word will spread, and folks will wonder if they're really as great as they're cracked up to be. Wakanda has to make itself trusted, and that is really tough in a situation where no one really trusts each other.

I get that Wakanda has high technology, but you can't fix deep conflicts with that alone. And all this assumes that Sudan (Khartoum) doesn't interfere.

South Sudan's a hard case, I'll admit. Wakanda could do more to help out in places like Tanzania or Uganda, since those countries are relatively stable. Though Uganda's kind of used to being the big guy on the block, so some elements might feel threatened by Wakanda. I think Wakanda could bring their best foot forward and make it work, but they need to get this right.

The movie shows Wakanda coming out to help, and that's a good message. T'Challa's doing the right thing. But doing good on the world stage is a lot more complicated than it might seem, so I can understand why they were so cautious.

[(Anonymous)]

That's one of the issues in the movie that is addressed/is a major plot point. Yeah, it's hella frustrating. But that's part of the plot. What will this young king do? Will he follow the footsteps of his ancestors? What will he destroy in trying to create? Etc. Etc. Etc.

I call troll.

[(Anonymous)]

Because this is the very topic of the movie. (Unless OP is living in California and has overindulged in newly-legalized dope.)