[ SECRET POST #4176 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4176 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Pirating is objectively wrong, but pirating self published or indie stuff is a truly shitty thing to do.

[(Anonymous)]

Pirating is not "objectively wrong" but I definitely agree that pirating self-published or indie stuff is wrong

Support creators

[(Anonymous)]

It is stealing, so yes it is wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Creators deserve to be supported, specially if they work on their on.

But stuff owned by big companies?
As long as big companies cheat their customers constantly in many ways (e.g. channels that remover subtitles, so people with hearing issues already paying for the service can't watch it anymore and have to keep paying for it due to permanence clause; services that promise certain content, but then you need to pay an extra service, and then you discover said content isn't available in your region even though their representatives said otherwise [Hi, Amazon Prime!], etc.) I refuse to feel bad about it.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

JESUS you people are jumping through a ton of hoops to make yourselves feel better. Trust me when I say you'd feel a lot better if you just admit to yourself that you do a bad thing. The thing is bad, and you do it. Live with the truth.

[(Anonymous)]

It is objectively wrong to take stuff you're not entitled to without supporting the creators - or in the case of "big company" media, the hundreds and even thousands of people who put work into it.

It's crazy how much people will twist a very obvious issue to justify the fact that they steal from creators.

[(Anonymous)]

On one hand, I don't think piracy is objectively right or wrong. It can be wrong if you pirate everything you own and do nothing to support the creators. It can be totally okay if you pirate to play something to see if you like it, then go back and pay for a copy later, to support the creator somehow. I do the second one a lot. Sometimes I like the games after trying them so much I buy extra copies for friends. But, I would never have bought that game that had no demo for the sticker price, without having tried it first. Or, if someone is pirating something that isn't available in their region, they're not harming anyone.

On the other hand, actions have consequences. I don't have any sympathy for people who pirate and don't support the creators, then turn around and complain that, for example, the gaming industry is going fully toward "live services" and microtransactions instead of the old standard of paid and DRM-free. If you're going to pirate, then you're going to have to deal with the industry-wide backlash toward your behavior. Suck it up, this is what happens. I have no tears for them.

[(Anonymous)]

You're not in a minority here. Few people really care about theft unless it affects them or their friends.

[(Anonymous)]

You're definitely stuck between a rock and a hard place, OP, but if I was your friend, I'd want to be told. I generally pirate stuff because there's no way for me to get it legally, but I try to support indie stuff when I can because it's harder for indie authors who have to market their stuff to get sales and recognition.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I understand how you feel. I had to learn to just let stuff like that slide. File-sharers are going to do what they do.

[(Anonymous)]

people will reupload it anyway, so there's no point in telling OP's friend about it.
Hopefully if someone likes it they will buy it. That's what I do. Too many books I dnf to buy them.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, boo hoo. I hope someone plagiarizes your fics. All of them.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think OP's making any money off of fics. Nor is anyone else, for that matter.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

*wipes away tears of laughter at the idea that I write fic or even have the capability to*

[(Anonymous)]

I had my fics plagiarized. Still not theft.

[(Anonymous)]

So you're saying you're a thief with a conscience. Yay. Why are you bothering with the guilt? Does it worry you that your friend might be losing money on all her hard work - or not?

[(Anonymous)]

I marvel at you having the ability to control guilt. Teach me?

[(Anonymous)]

If you're cool with pirating (and not just for stuff you can't access legally, which is a line a lot of people draw) why are you bothered about this?

[(Anonymous)]

Because, like most pirates, I don't usually know the person that's being deprived of earnings. I don't know about other authors' long journey to create and publish or what lovely and/or needed things they're using the money they do get for.

[(Anonymous)]

Gotta love all these people in this thread crying over the loos profit via piracy, when you know that those same people would proudly proclaim their support for libraries. Because you know, making people's intellectual property available to millions of people without giving the creator money for it is only morally reprehensible when it's done by someone not calling themselves a library.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. It's like how in videogame fandoms is common to people cry over piracy and then proudly say they do buy second hand copies, which, you know, doesn't help anyone involved in creating those games.

[(Anonymous)]

Libraries... pay for the things that they loan out...

She will take legal action to shut the site down.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean that's cute and I give you props for respecting your friend's work, but to address the subject--nah. If her stuff is on one site it's on others, and there's nothing she can realistically do to stop it all.
I think the best people can do is support indies and startups. Piracy isn't going anywhere and you're the proof OP, no offense.

[(Anonymous)]

Tell your friend and mourn the loss of your pirate bay in private. I am no angel at all when it comes to piracy but I couldn't let a friend's indie work get that treatment.