[ SECRET POST #4406 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4406 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Apparently girls do love negging/murder considering so many of them ship Reylo and find Kylo to be the ideal husbando. Nobody gives men more ammo to think women like being treated like shit than women.

[(Anonymous)]

"Giving ammo" is slightly unfair, because there's a distinction between enjoying something as a safe fantasy/play and the reality of abuse. Everyone needs to recognize that. Any man who confuses the two and thinks that women being into that fantasy justifies actual mistreatment of women is absolutely wrong and a real piece of shit besides.

But it does seem to be an extremely widespread, and common, and potent fantasy among women. Maybe the single most common fantasy. It seems kind of ludicrous to deny that.

[(Anonymous)]

A+ victim blaming there, anon.

[(Anonymous)]

ikr!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not wrong though.

[(Anonymous)]

No. You are wrong. There's no actual link between liking certain kinds of fictional characters, and deserving real-life abuse. Anyone who thinks there's a link is unjustified and utterly wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

This ×100000

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe learn to take some responsibility. When you see millions of women swoon over Christian Grey or Edward Cullen or Kylo Ren, it's no wonder a huge portion of men think all women want hot, controlling, abusive maniacs for boyfriends.

I'm not wrong, fam. Your shitty fantasies do have real world consequences.

[(Anonymous)]

... except other men. You're giving way too much credit to the kind of asshole who'd do this in thinking that they're that observant and responsive to what women say or do.

[(Anonymous)]

except other men

lolno it's definitely women. Centuries of observing women lose it over abusive assholes will do that.

[(Anonymous)]

It's so hard when people ship what you don't ship. Won't anyone pay attention to your pain

[(Anonymous)]

There's a whole lot to dig into here, and I don't feel like it. But one thing I do want to say is--

It's not women's job to incentivize men to be decent people.

Even if "bad boys" got laid more (which I'm not saying they do, but even if they did), men are not animals living on instinct, with no choice but to behave in the way that allows them to procreate the most effectively. Being sapient means you get to choose how you behave. And being civilized means choosing not to be a shithead because you think it might get your dick sucked a few more times.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but when you see the majority of girls getting soaked over asshole characters, they're obviously going to emulate that to get a woman. They are going to, and actively do, internalize that douchebag male characters are the key to getting into a woman's pants. Hence why "negging" or the mindset that all women want douchebags is even a thing. Y'all have no one to blame but yourselves for this shit, yet you don't take any responsibility.

Lololol!

[(Anonymous)]

"Women don't take any responsibility!" rants the anon who insists that men aren't responsible for their own shitty behavior.

Re: Lololol!

[(Anonymous)]

Can't exactly blame them for behaving that way when women prove time and time again that they like it and it's their ideal. Fucking idiot.

Re: Lololol!

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I mean, I think it's wrong to deny that women who worship guys like Kylo or the 50 Shades of Gray dude or DDlg or all the other disgusting power imbalance, abuse fetishes out there don't bring harm among women as a whole. Men do see this stuff and internalize it and use it as justification for their shitty behaviour. So, yeah, both sides are to blame.

[(Anonymous)]

protip: rape fantasies and a taste for douchebag fictional characters don't cause men to be arseholes, evidence suggests it's in fact a method to cope with the fact men are arseholes.

You either fictionalise, sexualise and in general nerf the sheer horror of existence in the current climate of dude behaviour, or you invent a series of nonsensical rituals (see almost every list of 'rape prevention behaviour for women') to avoid it happening to you; because on both ends of the spectrum you've been told everyday of your life that rape/abuse/harassment/assault is not a matter of if but a matter of when, and that when it happens it will be your fault no matter how many precautions were taken.

A lot of people do both.

The fact is turning something into a horny fantasy is way easier means to handle reality than spending 100% of the time you spend existing in pants-wetting-terror.

[(Anonymous)]

as a woman i would gladly push kylo ren off a steep cliff if given the chance. he seems like such a melodramatic manchild.

that said, i think the majority of women who fawn over him are fantasizing about the cuddly, bastardized kidzbop version of kylo that they've made up in their own heads, not the actual sociopath kylo you see in the movie. a lot of villain fans have a fetish for "woobifying" a male villain as just a poor misunderstood babbu who needs a hug and suddenly he'll become a ~perfect husbando~ cured through the power of ~*love*~!

[(Anonymous)]

Women don’t generally like being treated like shit. They like the fantasy that they are so irresistable that utterly irredeemable (hot) assholes will work their asses off to prove themselves to be worthy of such a flawless paragon of femininity by listening to them, taking care of all their needs and wants, loving them unconditionally, and doing the vast bulk of the emotional labor required for a successful relationship.

And I say this as someone who fucking loathes Kylo Ren and hopes he ends the next movie beheaded by a lightsaber.

[(Anonymous)]

Women don’t generally like being treated like shit

Most bullshit-y statement ITT so far. Y'all love it, don't pretend you don't. Women are so full of shit.

[(Anonymous)]

Who let the incel out of its cage?

[(Anonymous)]

Dudebro spotted.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure is a whole lot of trollin' going on tonight.

[(Anonymous)]

Lmao ain't that the truth

[(Anonymous)]

Does case not freeze shit anymore, it’s been awhile for me