[ SECRET POST #4428 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4428 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

I agree completely.

[(Anonymous)]

I guess I understand your point, but seriously who does that?

[(Anonymous)]

Who does what, make up an awful story? Lots of people have done it (including the Chicago PD, who is supposed to be investigating this).

[(Anonymous)]

Absolutely. It feels sick to desperately hope that he was actually attacked, but holy shit man, if he staged it... like, way to go, good job setting queer people of color back another thousand steps, because now casual homophobes/racists are always going to have this shit in their back pocket. It's genuinely fucking disgusting. Like I can't wrap my head around it. If it was staged, why?? It's not like people didn't fucking know already that people willing to attack gay people existed, so was this for personal attention, or...??

Please, please have actually been attacked.

[(Anonymous)]

Quite frankly, anybody who would let something like this affect their views on racism and homophobia was already an idiot to start with.

[(Anonymous)]

It’s not about affecting their views as in changing them, it’s about bolstering what they already think. Lots of people think hate crimes aren’t real and that the violence queer people and poc face is fake.

[(Anonymous)]

I've been following and just kind of waiting for things to happen. At this point I wouldn't even be surprised if someone else paid the two guys pretending to be the first guy.

[(Anonymous)]

Just to add here: my belief isn't leaning either way, just saying how crazy the whole thing is.

[(Anonymous)]

If it turns out Smollet staged the whole thing, then sadly, I do have to hope the repercussions are severe. But for me, it's not because I'm furious and I want Smollet to pay. It's because the repercussions for Smollet will then serve as a deterrent to others who might feel tempted to try something similar.

When it comes to Smollet himself, presuming he staged it all, I just mostly feel sad. Shame on him for crying wolf. But I don't believe he did it because he wanted attention. I suspect it was the homophobia and systemic racism he has witnessed and also experienced that motivated him.
His outrage and his desire to take action and have a real effect is very understandable. Unfortunately the action he choose to take was completely unsupportable, and the effect it will have is the opposite of what he intended.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, your one of those, "He was trying to open a dialogue" people.

[(Anonymous)]

No. I don't think that was what he was doing at all.

[(Anonymous)]

People are stupid. Obviously he's a dickhead if he faked it. But a lot of the reaction seems overblown. We know that homophobic and racist violence is a real thing that happens, and we knew that before this story happened, and it's still true. We know that people faking attacks on them is a thing that happens, and that it's rare, and that it's not isolated to one specific incident, and we already knew that before this happened, and it's still true.

I do think that people on the right, though, are being either a lot stupider or a lot more in bad faith than people on the left, in reacting to this. People on the left were maybe a little credulous about a story that always had some deeply iffy elements, but at the same time, if the police were taking it seriously and giving no indication of doubts, it's hard to blame them - and more importantly, they were correct about the general point (that racist and homophobic violence happens) and wrong about the particular facts. Whereas people on the right are wrong about the general principle, and crowing about how right they are about the specific facts, as though this somehow proves racist and homophobic violence doesn't exist. In other words, they're real dickheads, and anyone reacting like that is a dickhead, in addition to Smollet being a dickhead if he faked it.

[(Anonymous)]

+100000

I was at work when I first heard about this, and the dickhead beside me was positively crowing over it, scouring the internet for the most condemnatory "news coverage" he could find, describing the story to his buddies with details that, as far as I can tell, he'd either made up himself or his ultra-biased "news sources" had decided to infer. I mean this guy was absolutely relishing his in "righteous" outrage, and how he now got to feel vindicated in a bunch of his racist, liberal-hating opinions.

Hearing this asshat, I realized that even though what Smollet did was seriously fucking stupid and worthy of shame, I was more disgusted by these white, straight, conservative assholes' responses to the story than I was by what Smollet did.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh god, yes, this.

I was at work too, and I had to make the point that even if this turned out to be all Jussie Smollett scheming, these kinds of things do happen to real people. Trans women are at risk particularly, etc.

And this shithead in my office is all, "Yeah, but it's mostly fakers. It always turns out to be faaaaake."

Fuck this. I'm so irritated by everything about this but particularly the reactions from the people like this.

[erinptah]

It bothers me that you've got so many paragraphs of "if this guy faked being attacked, fuck him," and not a single word of "if he was attacked for real, fuck the attackers."

It's not like there's any shortage of indisputable racist-and-homophobic violence out there. The mass-murder at Pulse wasn't even three years ago. This guy's story is totally credible. Why be so blase about it?

And "this violence that reflects badly on conservatives was all faked!" is a bog-standard right-wing talking point. No matter how obviously real (murdered children! pipe bombs in people's mailboxes!) the situation is. Why are people so willing to knee-jerk react like maybe this time they're on to something?

Not to mention: the official statement from the Chicago police is that the "it's a hoax!" media reports "are unconfirmed by case detectives," and "we have no evidence to support their reporting and their supposed CPD sources are uninformed and inaccurate."

OP

[(Anonymous)]

I assumed anyone with half a brain would know that if it is true then fuck the attackers. unfortunately, it is looking more and more like he faked it.

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[(Anonymous)]

DA

"I assumed anyone with half a brain would know that if it is true then fuck the attackers."

This, holy shit, does that even NEED to be said?????

[(Anonymous)]

Considering the caliber of human that's been yowling about this being fake news from the moment it happened, anyone with half a brain is going to assume that your reaction to even the most indisputable evidence of it being true would remain 'but what if fake tho'.

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[erinptah]

In a perfect world everyone would know that, but in our world there's a whole lot of apparently-functioning adults who don't. And, listen, you've gotta know those people also tend to be eager for excuses to go off on angry rants about gay black guys. So it's reeeeally worth spelling it out, and not taking it for granted.

The media reporting has been such a mess, I'm not making any judgments.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

DA

He's not even saying that he didn't fake it, it appears that now he isn't even cooperating with the police anymore.

[philstar22]

I mostly agree with you. However I would add that people were instantly suspicious of him in a way they wouldn't have been if he was white. And that is a problem. White men are given the benefit of the doubt.

[(Anonymous)]

People were suspicious because it always sounded suspicious. All the details just sound 'off,' from the attack occurring in CHICAGO of all places at 2am to the fact he didn't take off the clothes-line noose for 45 freaking minutes.

[(Anonymous)]

Agree. The world did not need this motherfucker crying wolf about racist and homophobic attacks. And at this point I'm convinced the attack was staged. I can't fathom why he thought this was a good idea or why he thought he'd get away with it. He needs to get therapy for whatever problems he has and stfu.

Fortunately, his career will be nonexistent after this but, sadly, the damage has been done.

[(Anonymous)]

If it turns out to have been staged, as reports seem to be indicating, I'm just gonna laugh all the way to the bank about Ira dragging Kevin Hart's tweet of sympathy because Kevin Hart's homophobic jokes are the direct cause of the attack.