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[ SECRET POST #658 ]

⌈ Secret Post #658 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Looking For Group]

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[Johnny the Homicidal Maniac]

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[Fanfiction; Voldemort Kaulitz]

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[The Penguin of Death]

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[Fullmetal Alchemist]

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[Death Note, Mello]

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[MCA, KH II]

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[Gurren Lagann]

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[Fringe]

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[Psychonauts]

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[Avatar]

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[Ashes to Ashes, Shaz Granger]

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[Code Geass, C.C.]

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[Whitest Kids U' Know]

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[Nabari no Ou]

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[BoA]

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[QI, Jeremy Clarkson, Sean Lock]

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[Resized]

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[Star Trek]

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[I suggest Kamina]

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[Ken Russell's The Devils, Father Barre]

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[Supernatural]

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[Avatar]

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[Stephen Colbert/Kathleen Parker]

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[Death Note]

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I'm gonna laugh so fucking hard at you if McCain gets elected, because you're gonna be screwed over again, just like with Bush. (McCain's gonna die half-way through, and then you'll get Little Ms.'I can see Russia from my house' taking care of you guy, soccer mom style.)

That being said, I'm really fucking worried about the rest of America.
Not you so much in particular though.

Ahahaha! Then it makes me one as well, dammnit.

That will forever be my explanation even if they don't mention it now.

Mmmmmm ♥

YuGiOh: GX/Kenzan Tyranno

Hey, if you guys are starting an SNL fandom, can I tag along? I promise to write Tim Calhoun-related fic.

Thelma & Louise would probably be better than Old Yeller.

That's because episode 26 wasn't about their "deepest inner desires", probably. It was about them recognizing the infinite possibilities of this Universe, it was about them losing themselves in consciousness.

No, it was about what they really wanted. Simon wanted a Kamina that would never get killed and leave him alone, even if it meant that "Kamina" was a craven coward, but it wasn't what he needed. Gurren Lagann being all about "choice", the point of those sequences was to give people the things they thought would make them happy, and then have them make the choice to put that aside and do the right thing.

And we indeed get a perfectly clear sense of what Simon and Nia mean to each other. Simon finds purpose in Nia. He is just a digger, without much direction. Nia gives him something to fight for. Nia finds validation, she finds something to make concrete her ethereal and senseless existence.

Validation of what? I can buy what Simon gets out of a relationship with Nia, but every justification I've ever seen of what Nia gets out of it very vague, probably because the series chose not to focus on her as a character for a very large chunk, and tended to use her as a plot device instead.

As for the second paragraph, Simon and Nia have plenty of actual characterization. Just because it wasn't delivered in concrete exposition it doesn't mean it isn't there. They use visuals and actions to make a point, you know.

If I wasn't including "visuals and actions", I don't think I'd be able to count Nia and Simon as a couple at all. Simon and Nia looking off in the distance together makes a lovely "picture", but it doesn't tie them to the viewer on concrete level.

Haha good analogy, and yes I agree! ^_^

But she indeed has a similar crisis of faith. She isn't trying to find a purpose, she was trying to understand what it meant to be human. It isn't in Nia's character to extendedly grieve, but her own type of insecurity was delivered plenty through the show. She asks for a proper burial of her sisters in order to validate her own existence, she hesitates to kill her father in episode 15, she in at first scared of Simon's proposal because she wants to protect her own identity and she ultimately asks him to allow her in order to become Nia once again.

And "every single other cast member"? How were Viral or Yoko given more of an individual crucible than Nia? How was Kamina given more of an individual crucible than Nia? I remember Kamina screaming for his father for a brief sequence in episode 2 and "forgetting" about it in subsequent adventures.

Aw, don't do that. That wasn't my intention with my question. I was just confused.

Thanks!

it turned out Simon's "deepest inner desire" didn't even have Nia anywhere near it.

She doesn't appear in it herself, but a lot of things symbolizing their connection appear in the dream. Like the engagement ring, the fact that Simon is where he and Nia first met when he starts to realize that something is wrong, and how he escapes from the dreamworld by opening her box (and light illuminates the dark just like when they met). All of that was intentional by the way, according to an interview with the director & assistant director.

And in the first half of the episode, Simon being reminded that Nia was still waiting for him is what made him determined again to keep going after learning the truth about the Spiral Nemesis, so who knows, maybe it was an intentional move by the Anti-Spirals not to have her appear personally.

Oh god, I'd hate to see that happen too... and I had this sick feeling in my gut that that is what would happen, and it made me sad.

Dude, HELL yes!
T-Tim Calhoun :')

She isn't trying to find a purpose, she was trying to understand what it meant to be human.

I deliberately said she wasn't trying to find a purpose.

It isn't in Nia's character to extendedly grieve, but her own type of insecurity was delivered plenty through the show.

Where was this?

She asks for a proper burial of her sisters in order to validate her own existence, she hesitates to kill her father in episode 15, she in at first scared of Simon's proposal because she wants to protect her own identity and she ultimately asks him to allow her in order to become Nia once again.

How were Viral or Yoko given more of an individual crucible than Nia?

Youko's was finding her purpose--unlike Nia's. Viral's was similar in that he was searching for a place to call home. All of the (remaining) mains' are illuminated by their scenes in 26.

How was Kamina given more of an individual crucible than Nia? I remember Kamina screaming for his father for a brief sequence in episode 2 and "forgetting" about it in subsequent adventures.

You are kidding, right? Kamina is the second most complex character in the entire show--and I didn't even like him all that much, honestly--Kamina was operating almost entirely on bravado and felt like the only thing he could really do was try to give strength to people like Simon. He outright says this, so I'm not sure why you're thinking that Kamina's development is somehow tied to his father.

That's why he needed to die, narratively, before Simon figured out there was a "man behind the curtain".

Death Note would have been 100% more interesting for me if Mello had been a chick. Maybe I would actually like him then!

Response to first paragraph: Except the writer have come out to say that the sequence in episode 26 was about possibilities. It's about how you can lose yourself through recognition. Simon took life by his own hands, he decided to be himself. That's why it was an alternative universe and not a simple dream sequence. Gurren-Lagann is a show about "act or not to act". Characters aren't given a choice, characters are given an opportunity. They are who they are, in their hands is only the decision to fight or to run away.

2nd paragraph: To validate her own existence. Nia was infatuated by the love he imprinted into the Kamina statues; she thought they were the definition of "human". Simon made Nia able to accept herself as herself. The show focused enough on her character, with expressions and body language that say plenty about her thought-processes and feelings.

3rd paragraph: And "visuals" include the expressions of the cast members. Nia's look of pain when confronting Genome in episode 15, her melancholic look in episode 17, the way in which she reacts to Lord Genome in episode 27... it's the animated equivalent of "acting". Cartoon characters talk too much, Gurren-Lagann tries to not fall prey of this mistake.

I noticed the box symbolism myself, and furthermore, let's also keep in mind that his vision was ultimately a distraction. My issue is that by making Nia into a "symbol", you remove her importance as a character, a person that could potentially share Simon's life as opposed to some nebulous light that "shows him the way".

110. Man, that's another fandom I'm glad I avoided. I'll just be over here, spinning my soundtrack of "Christmas Nights" and pretending that I'm alone in my love for that series.

111. Oh my god what is that? There's something called "The Penguin of Death" and I didn't know? I must investigate. He looks amazing.

112. That's about the hottest ship/robot/hologram/whatever that ever graced syndicated television. Viva the first and part of the second season of Andromeda!

122. I thought I was the only one! I worship that soundtrack. And that movie. But mostly that soundtrack. Powerline rocks me.

150. I've got a secret for you, secret-maker... I just started using Laser Cats again.

153. I've given up being critical. Instead, I'm looking at TrekMovie every day, listening to Jerry Goldsmith and James Horner nonstop, and revisiting all the shows. This is the most excited I think I've been for a movie since I was small. Warp speed, damnit!

I don't care AT ALL about Death Note but DAMN. About hitting on that cosplayer, count me next.

GODDAMN.

118) Walter is the shit.

127...omg...older Raz is hot. I love that game so very much.

Validation of what? I can buy what Simon gets out of a relationship with Nia, but every justification I've ever seen of what Nia gets out of it very vague, probably because the series chose not to focus on her as a character for a very large chunk, and tended to use her as a plot device instead.

I'd suggest rewatching episode 11, as it's a good character development episode for Nia as well as Simon and sets up the basic points of their relationship. When Nia is told that she was created as a doll, she learns that her father, the one person who she loved and trusted, never meant for her to be her own person. But because of the things she learned while around the humans, she stands up to Guame anyway and decides to believe in Simon. Then minutes later, Simon shows up to save her, validating her belief, and tells her that no matter her past, she should live as herself. So when her father failed her and her statis as a person was put to question, Simon gave her something to believe in and valued her as an individual. Those same themes are also repeated in the second half of the story.

150: LOLOLOL YOU WIN

Laser... DOG?!

107. Eehhh Ahiru wasn't a Sue to me, she was the inversed allegory of the Ugly Duckling. She never became a swan to be loved, she remained herself. It's a very healthy message for young girls. Ditto about Rue. Teaches girls it's OKAY to not be perfect (Tutu. TUTU is the Sue) or vixens (Kraehe) just to be themselves. :)

121. What's wrong with tomboys? Girly-girls can be as cliché moe-wank bait as man hating manly girls in fiction. It depends in the execution.

If there's an actual Anime series with really well done female characters is The Twelve Kingdoms, IMO (well done as: they are people rather than good characters to me). There you go: real, flawed girls without MOE MOE fanservice traits with a great development. I preferred the novels, but I was glad they didn't ruin the fun in the Anime.

Umm, yeah, but I made the secret when they weren't back together.

I don't regret dumping her at all. I feel better now than I've felt in years.

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