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⌈ Secret Post #4698 ⌋

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That sucks. It is totally okay to be annoyed at them and jealous. Allow yourself to feel whatever you feel. And that one woman sounds like she's making this more difficult for you, and I totally get why you are angry. I'm really sorry. I hope you get your replacement soon. And I hope that that woman stops making this so difficult for you.

At least the show was honest about how fucked up the Buffybot thing was. That made it easier to handle, for me at least.

I feel like I probably should have been more bothered by the Buffybot thing than I was. It was definitely bad and gross, but somehow the amount of detail that he put into seemed almost sweet, in a suitably fucked up Spike way? Like, he could have gotten a Buffy-shaped version of the first bot Warren built, that basically had no personality traits other than 'loves the guy it was programmed to love', but he didn't want that. He wanted it to be as realistic as a version of Buffy that was totally into him could be. That doesn't make it not gross, but the idea of it as a private outlet for someone who knows he'll never be able to have what he really wants, and knows too that he'll never be happy with anything else, speaks to me on some level.

Also, I will 100% forgive the Buffybot storyline in general because of a) some of the hilarious moments it caused and b) that scene after Spike was tortured by Glory, where actual Buffy comes to see him pretending to be the bot.

I never used to mind adaptations, despite my lack of interest in them, because the original was still there and unchanged. However, that no longer applies to some things.

Specifically, comics. I was never interested in the MCU but now I actively dislike it because of what happened in the comics. Things like characters changing into copies of their movie counterparts. The Guardians of the Galaxy especially; Star-Lord is a completely different person.

Another thing is the X-Men. The X-Men are my favorite superheroes and the reason I love comics. I know they're not in the MCU but that's the reason they were screwed over. Marvel didn't have the film rights so they really tried to replace them with the Inhumans. They did this by vilifying the X-Men and making them out to be the bad guys.

That's what upset me about this whole thing. I don't care about the MCU and was fine to just ignore it and read the comics. I'm worried over what they're going to do with the X-Men now that they do have the rights because of how it's going to affect the comics.

Different anon, but you summed it up. I liked Angel when I first watched it and he was a mysterious older guy. As an adult he's just the dude who hangs out with high school girls that everyone his own age stopped talking to because they think he's weird.

Definitely, those bits towards the end of season 5 when he doesn't think he has even a sliver of a hope and he's still there trying to help, damn. I especially love the scene where they've gone back to her house to get weapons, and she forgot that he would be stuck at the door because he was un-invited, and he doesn't even suggest that she re-invite him, he's just like 'pass the stuff over the threshold, it's fine'. And then she does invite him in again. <3

ahaha Riley, I remember not being a huge fan the first time through, on re-watch he was tolerable in like the first half of season 4 and by the time it got to season 5 every time he was on screen I was just going 'whhhhhy is he still here when is it the episode where he goes awaaaay'

Yeah. We're supposed to believe that there's no college-aged or older people who would have been okay with accepting Angel into their circle of friends? The only person who could really understand him was a high school sophomore. Uh huh.

Goodfellas

Agreed. Also Seth Rogan. I don't know why but I just can't stand that guy.

Rogan looks like a dumber and more egotistical Fred Flinstone.

Ever since I can remember, I've been scared of falling over the railing at a multi-level shopping mall, so I get this completely.

Yes, precisely. He even says, iirc, during that same speech "Can't say sorry" -- meaning that he know that no apology would ever be is enough, let alone asking for forgiveness or hoping for redemption.

... or maybe he didn't want one then but changed his mind since that time? I know I wasn't interested in getting a Switch when they first came out, but they've since released several games for it that I actually am interested in and now I want one. There's a perfectly good chance it's just something as simple as that.

Yesssss. That's such a great moment.

Yes, that's another one of my favorite moments of the show. I always loved that he knew the exact moment it wasn't the bot. "And my robot?" "The robot was gross and disgusting. And it wasn't real... but what you did for Dawn, that was real, and I won't forget it."

Scenario 1) Adaptation makes minor changes because nothing is ever exactly the same. I am a twelve year old perfectionist throwing a fit because minor dialogue scenes in the first Harry Potter movie were different from the book. Not Reasonable Criticism.

Scenario 2) Adaptation makes some fairly major changes which I dislike, because 2a) the creators valued different things about the original than I did, or 2b) because they are actively trying to say something different than the original did. "I'm upset that the thing I loved about this had a chance to be hugely celebrated and it was not" is reasonable to be upset about. "I don't like this because it doesn't contain the things I love about X" is reasonable. "This adaptation is bad because it does not cater to my tastes" is Not Reasonable Criticism.

Scenario 3) Adaptation makes major changes to make the original more corporate-friendly/marketable/slap it together fast and under budget. Not only does the adaptation not capture what I loved about the original, but the creators of the adaptation aren't saying or achieving anything with the changes, and clearly don't care about what I loved. The result is a mangled mess full of bits of lore and references to something better, like an undercooked fruitcake dotted with delicious rum-soaked raisins, but that you can't actually eat because the middle is fucking raw. "This adaptation is bad because it failed to capture what was good about the original and changed things pointlessly and made nothing new or relevant out of it," is Reasonable Criticism, and also reasonable to be upset by, at least by the standards of "it's reasonable to have any emotions at all about the important stories and culture in our lives even though poverty exists."

I agree with all your points, with the addition of d - not just accidentally missing the point, but purposefully altering the spirit of the original in a major way. Small changes I'm fine with... some have to be done, to accommodate adapting a work from one medium to another, or to update a story, or adapt the pacing.

But if, for example, you take a largely hopeful and positive work and add a bunch of angst and drama, I wish you'd just make an original work because it's too great a departure from the original for me.

There are layers to adaptations.

It's possible for an adaptation to only loosely stick to the script of the source material and still capture the spirit of it brilliantly. This type of adaptation will appeal to some fans and turn off others, depending on what's been changed and how important it was to the individual.

In other cases, it's obvious that the people making the adaptation don't actually like or understand the source material that much. In those cases if the movie is good anyway, they'd be better off just calling it something else. Maybe through in an "inspired by" if they're afraid of being accused of ripping off the other story. Otherwise, you've disappointed fans of the original work and fans of your work are equally bound for disappointment if they check out the original.

Either way, it's possible for a movie to be a questionable adaptation and also a good movie. It's also valid for someone to not like an otherwise good movie because the way it adapted the source material didn't work for them.

Okay, I sort of get that, but I feel like you are not including a few things.

If an adaptation has very little in common with the source material, that is really annoying because the only reason they haven't called it something else is to get the money/attention of the already built-in fanbase.

If an adaptation seems contemptuous of a good portion of the source elements, that is very annoying.

If an adaptation does not really get the point of the source material or why people like, well, I can understand that to a point, different interpretations and all, but it's still kind of irritating. Like, I feel like a bunch of video game movies have been made by people who never played the games.

You're welcome. I'm at that weird stage too. You aren't alone.

Wanting validation is okay. Just don't let it be the only reason to write fanfic.

That's a completely legitimate fear tbh. If the Democrats put up Biden, we're doomed. It's gonna be another shitshow like putting up Hillary-- not because she was objectively the bad choice, but because there had been so much fire under the Bernie campaign that it felt to a lot of younger people like betrayal. Most either didn't vote or spite-voted for Trump. Same damn thing's gonna happen this time around, I'm almost sure of it.

That if I stick my hand down the garbage disposal to pull something out when it's turned off, something's gonna trip the electricity and turn it on. EVERY TIME.

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