[ SECRET POST #5257 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5257 ⌋

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[The Green Knight (2021)]


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10. [WARNING for discussion of child abuse]



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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Bruh she had Rapunzel literally in chains to force her along with her at one point

[(Anonymous)]

This was towards the end of the movie, though, where she is downright abusive. Before, she was just a shitty mother. The assumption that every shitty mother will end up to be downright abusive is the one the movie makes, or some of watchers do, that I don't agree with. But I like the movie. My point exactly.

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INZGW13GpC0

Ah yes. Just "shitty mother." Shitty mothers purposely tear down their daughters, after all, so they have 0 confidence.

Also, love how you ignored she kidnapped a baby to remain young. I'm pretty sure no one is going to assume all shitty mothers are kidnappers, but go off and suck your own proverbial dick.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you really this dense? This is a Disney movie? Do I have to keep saying it?

For a good portion of the movie all we see is Rapunzel herself (a great character, by the way) trying to debate with Gothel, but her life was apparently normal, but curtailed. As far as I remember Gothel wasn't spanking her on the daily, nor did Rapunzel complain about anything other than boredom. And it's easy to jump from this to "wow, parents who have to restrict their children's activities are abusive!". I am not trying to defend Gothel's (very much fictional, thankfully) character.

[(Anonymous)]

you literally have no idea what abuse is. what a fucking fraud

[(Anonymous)]

This was my point EXACTLY?

Some people will say that they had abusive parents or call out other people's "abusive parents" but they're really talking about parents who weren't great at taking care of their children, but legit tried. Abuse isn't something so trivial that you can throw every parent who wasn't a textbook parent in the same box.

Thank you for getting it, even if belated. I don't have anything to prove anyone as an anonymous other than a point.

[(Anonymous)]

your point is that you don't know what abuse is...?

[(Anonymous)]

What IS abuse to you? Is my point.

As you can see by the reply below, they're saying that a shitty parent who may have tried their best is abusive. Would you agree? I would beg to differ. I think there are varied degrees of being a less-than-ideal parent, but to me not all of them are abusive.

[(Anonymous)]

it's not a matter of your definition. words have meanings. abuse is abuse regardless of intent. psychological abuse is abuse. learn what the fuck abuse is before you run around whining that everyone gets it wrong

[(Anonymous)]

This whole words have meanings is such bullshit. I don't even know if this word has the same meaning to you as it has to me because we speak different languages. Yes, they have meanings and their meaning is easily changed, or, worse, distorted. But it's easy to say that someone with a poor upbringing was "psychologically abused" when the world didn't give the family any resources.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT-- parents can lack resources and try their best and love their kids and still be abusive, holy shit. I loved my parents and they loved me and they absolutely should not have been parents--this is pedophile grandpa, schizophrenic addict dad, alcoholic mom anon. Trying their best doesn't let them off the hook for abuse, fucking hell.

[(Anonymous)]

Do I have to say this again? Great, this is how you feel abt your life and family. I feel differently about mine (naturally). We're different individuals with different thoughts and opinions. So? Why should I try to make you feel what I feel or vice versa? What do I have to do with your life?

Have any of those outsiders who trash talk your family actually helped you in getting over it? If they have, great for you. We are different in that sense.

And I really don't care either way, as I am not your therapist

[(Anonymous)]

(In other words: some abusers should be held accountable, but some were just mistaken. Were denied an abortion or went bankrupt with 6 children or whatever. I'm giving lousy examples because honestly I am tired of being attacked. Bye)

[(Anonymous)]

Don't start shit by saying an abused character didn't have it that bad, psycho bitch.

[(Anonymous)]

Re-read this whole thread and call me a psycho bitch again. You're rolling on assumptions.

[(Anonymous)]

"trying" does not keep you from being abusive. you can abuse your child by being a shitty parent. i'm sorry that your parents abused you and that you're apparently so triggered by the very subject that you need to tell everyone on the internet that no, parents who REALLY TRIED aren't abusive and children of parents who REALLY TRIED don't need therapy.

but mate, if you'd been to therapy maybe you'd recognise that your obsession with that point is weird.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah mate all I am saying is that some people are so fucking privileged that they can't look at the world as it is. Thanks for proving my point.

[(Anonymous)]

Says the privileged person.

[(Anonymous)]

Me, from the beginning: I wish people weren't so "oh you have to go to therapy" about less-than-ideal parenting (heard it a lot myself), that's some privileged shit, not everyone is or ever ends up being in a great position in life :/
You: You have to go to therapy

*shrug*

[(Anonymous)]

You implied that people who go to therapy aren't mature or adult enough to just get over it.

[(Anonymous)]

What the hell, I said three times over that all I expect is for people to be happy and not feel like their life is over because they were abused and I liked the movie because I felt this message lol.

[(Anonymous)]

Holy shit. Holy shit you don't think being locked away in a tower, never allowed to interact with anyone and torn down while being scared away from the outside world with lies just so they never leave so you can leave them isn't abuse. Holy shit.

Rapunzel didn't complain about anything because she didn't know any better. You're arguing I wasn't abused because I thought what was happening to me, the emotional tear-downs, literally being called worthless at times and shit, Wasn't abuse because I felt I deserved it and thought it normal.

Who are you so you can lose your fucking license, because you're undoubtedly harming your patients with your attitude.

[(Anonymous)]

Backtracking just so I make my own interpretation clear. To me there's worse things than not going outside much (I recall she did sunbathe? She wasn't merely locked in) and I was saying I liked how the movie focused on her character not as a victim of her upbringing and nothing other than a shell. Which naturally would be harder if she was locked up and Gothel just barely fed her like in the original tale.

So, again, because I've been there this bittersweetness was refreshing to me. Over.

And don't worry, I employ my studies in more effective ways. Not ranting online, usually.

[(Anonymous)]

Gothel is abusive. The entire movie. Period. You are suggesting one type of abuse is less valid than the other, or possibly not valid at all. This is one of the things we take issue with.

Just stop.

[(Anonymous)]

I was indeed saying that in real life the "abuse was abuse" thing is such a nice, dreamy idea! Wow nobody deserves unhappiness indeed! but absolutely UNFAIR to parents who actually try and suck at it and deserve help, who shouldn't be shoved in the same box, to me, as parents who didn't even bother. See, Gothel was a hateful parent, I'm not arguing.
Source: me and my family have seen way more shit than one should handle and nobody gives a fuck lol.