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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-10-23 04:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #5405 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5405 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-23 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadly they're not being dumb, they just have an agenda.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-23 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
What's their agenda? How is it organized?

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-23 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I don't get this. I'm gonna side-eye people who write child-Rin and Sesshoumaru. I'm not gonna side-eye people who write adult-Rin and Sesshoumaru.

Adults have agency and the ability to properly consent. Just because they WERE a child once does not make them a child now unless there's some sort of developmental delay going on.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-23 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Jup. Also, real life people grow up. I'm an adult now but I still like Digimon almost as much as I did when I was the characters' age. Ofc I also still ship my ships, just that if I was reading fics now, I'd probably look for ones where the characters are older.
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[personal profile] pantswarrior 2021-10-23 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahah, this reminds me of back when my s/o and I met, and we RPed this one pairing that we referred to as "the sexy old men" because they were older than us, and everyone else in the cast was younger than us, including a bunch of teenagers.

I still think of them as "the sexy old men" and they're 15 years younger than us now. XD

(Anonymous) 2021-10-23 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm such a pedo, everyone I've ever dated used to be a child. *eyeroll*

(Anonymous) 2021-10-23 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm such a pedo, people date me and I used to be a child!

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-23 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
This feels like part of that weird new thing where its like "X-Thing is P R O B L E M A T I C and shouldn't exist at all and you're 100% as evil if you disagree with that in any way", you know? I think people like that can only see things in black or white (and that doesn't make a lot of sense in this case anyway because you're taking about grown adults and not kids, so it IS black and white).

[personal profile] hey_hey_hey 2021-10-23 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Those people must really hate SORASing on soaps. The characters are kids living with a parent out of state or always with the nanny one day, and then the next they're either older teens or adults getting it on.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-23 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL

Oh man, I haven't heard that term in years, since I haven't been keeping up with the soap scene.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-23 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never heard of that term, but it's awesome! Applies to comics way too much, too.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-23 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I said it before but I'll say it again: nuance is for friends I can trust. Like yeah in fiction it might be good to explore, but also you're going to come across folks who managed to write a story where they're into the child-version of the character and kept their personality entirely unchanged, but now it's okay to fuck them. Whether or not that's illegal or not isn't what I'm concerned about. I'm just clicking the back-button and going "wtf..." to my personal friend group.

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-23 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I'm primarily more concerned with the people who either harass people for things or spread around rumors to try and inspire others to harass them.

I've been online way too long to waste time if some stranger is talking about me to friends. As long as you're not going "here's their account. Call their work or tell them to kill themselves."

(Anonymous) 2021-10-23 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, I imagine the extent of "exploration" happening here is people writing about characters with personalities they like, now with bangable adult bods. Which is, as far as I know, decidedly not-pedo. Failing to portray personalities accordingly developed is just bad writing, which fair enough I'm not interested in reading either but I won't lose sleep over it.

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-23 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of things have characters who are essentially adults with a "15 years old" sticker on them because that's the age of the main audience. If they fight wars, live by themselves, and make other decisions only adults are expected to make IRL in canon, I'm not fussed about keeping their personalities and pasting a "25 years old" sticker over the old one.

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-23 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
folks who managed to write a story where they're into the child-version of the character and kept their personality entirely unchanged, but now it's okay to fuck them.

I completely agree with the secret, and I'd be a huge hypocrite if I didn't because one of the characters in my current OTP needs aging up in order to be legal (which I strongly prefer). But also, you're right about this, and I'd totally make fun of these fics with my fandom friends, too, if there were a way for me to do it privately.

Well, I wouldn't bother making fun of fics where the aged up character was sixteen in canon and still seemed like they were sixteen in the fic, despite the fic telling us they're eighteen. I think that one's pretty understandable. But I've definitely come across plenty of fics where the "aged-up" character was sixteen in canon, and the fic claimed they were eighteen, but then they seemed more like they were eight. Honestly, I'm not even squicked by it anymore, just dryly amused.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-24 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
"Nuance is for friends I can trust"? Why does this comment have four responses and no one has pointed out how fucked-up that is? Nuance should be your default. This is common sense. Holy shit.

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-24 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
You should probably employ your critical thinking skills less discriminately. Saving it for friends only isn't the cunning plan that you think it is.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-24 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
nuance is for friends I can trust.

That...kind of makes me think you might still be a child yourself.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-24 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Vaguely relayed but just pondering this. There was a Stranger Things fic that focused on Dustin, post S2, and put forward a vision of how his life through college and having a job would be shaped by the trauma of all he’s gone through, and in the end as a grown adult he reconnects and gets together with Steve, who he had a bit of a hero-worship crush on as a kid that he now can look back on and dissect for what it was, and it’s a really thoughtful and bittersweet exploration of the characters and the inescapability of our pasts and the things that haunt you. Anyway the top comments were all people calling the author fucked up for the inherent concept of main tagged ship. I can get why seeing the tag could be troubling. But like... that’s not what it was About. I still think about that interaction, it was such an encapsulation of the current landscape.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-24 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Things like this make me want children banned from the internet.

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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2021-10-24 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, I don't care about aged up fics at all (there's so nuance here but mostly yeah). But I actually find your comparison pretty funny? Because I think the corollary you're talking about is actually those adults who wait for teens to hit 18 before fucking them (or even younger in countries/states with lower ages of consent), and yeah I find that gross even if I would never say anything.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-24 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that's the corollary if the character is aged up only to eighteen. But I don't really think it's still the corollary when the character is aged up into their twenties or even thirties.

Not that I care. My OTP is 18/48 in most of my favorite fics, and if that squicks people, fair enough.

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-24 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
It's also super stupid because children stop being attractive to pedophiles when they grow up. Aging a child character into an adult is the opposite of what a pedophile would want. You'd be better off side-eying people who age sexy adult characters down to kids, if you feel the need to side-eye anyone.

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