[ SECRET POST #5561 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5561 ⌋

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Comments

Celebrity/media news

[philstar22]

Anyone want to talk about anything? Like, say, the Oscars? Or any trailers?

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

Chris Rock was like "That's the joke I get hit for??"

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

The thing is, Chris Rock was in a very literal sense doing what he was paid to do. I agree that the joke was in bad taste but his job was to tell spicy jokes to engender controversy and juice the ratings. And the Oscars really succeeded beyond their wildest dreams in that regard.

Re: Celebrity/media news

[dancingmouse]

Yeah, I thought it was either a big overreaction, or, just my theory, it was completely staged and planned from the beginning.

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

It was a bad joke and I get why Smith would be mad (assuming it wasn't staged). Just, also think people should probably be getting mad at the Oscars themselves here, not just Rock and Smith.

Also I'm not ready to say it was staged, but if incidents like this and the Moonlight thing keep happening at the Oscars, at some point it's going to start getting mighty suspicious.

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

He was getting paid to make jokes, not pick on someone for their disability in a forum where he didn't expect to get any real pushback.

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

He was getting paid to make jokes, and I think specifically to make jokes that would be a little outrageous and push the boundaries. He went too far - it was absolutely a shitty joke to make. But I think the Oscars wanted controversy and set the situation up for that and they got it.

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

Alopecia is a medical condition, but it is not a disability.

Re: Celebrity/media news

[philstar22]

I mean, it was an awful joke in really bad taste. But this isn't the age where men need to protect "their" woman's honor. Jada was perfectly capable of protecting herself, and Will could have just yelled. He didn't need to take it there. That was not for his wife, it was for himself.

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

You've never wanted to physically stand up for someone you love? Violence isn't the answer but it being an impulse doesn't have to be "OMG PATRIARCHY" or whatever.

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

+1000

Will Smith has now made it OK for anyone to jump up on stage and attack a comedian for telling a joke they don't like.

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

also jada doesn't have any "honour" to defend

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

That's what I don't get. The joke was so tame for Chris Rock and Will Smith has heard so much worse from so many other people about his wife.

I hope Will is okay - if this wasn't staged then maybe it was some sort of mental breakdown or the beginning of one.

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

I’m not familiar with Chris Rock as a stand up comedian, just his movie roles, so I didn’t know this was considered game for him. It still crossed a line, but so did Smith slapping him.

I do honestly feel the same way, in worrying about Will Smith. This seems out of character, and he could be going through something behind the scenes.

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

Some people think this was just a final straw type thing. Chris Rock also made fun of Jada Pinkett-Smith in 2016 at the Oscars for boycotting them and for being upset about Will Smith not getting nominated for 'Concussion' - which was honestly weird because it was about the lack of diversity. But even if that did play a part, it still seems like a huge overreaction, so I feel like something is missing from the narrative.

Re: Celebrity/media news

[tabaqui]

Can we have trailers? I never know what movies are upcoming (the 'trailers 2022 type vids on YouTube always seem to show the same five or whatever). Would love some trailers-as-recs!

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

Everyone I know in fandom wanted Mitchells vs. the Machines to win Best Animated and is big mad that it didn't. I find this highly confusing because everyone I know in fandom always talks about how #OscarsSoWhite. So you're mad that a small independent movie about a white family lost to a mega-hit Disney movie about a Latino family? I think it's bullshit that there's a conspiracy going on to keep the Oscars white, but if the white indie movie had somehow beat the nonwhite Disney movie? That actually would have made me rethink my stance.

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[(Anonymous)]

Agreed with pretty much all of this! I don’t think there’s a conspiracy, although I don’t really believe in conspiracies. But I do agree with the people that find some of the voting base suspect.

But that aside, as someone who loved both Mitchells vs. The Machines and Encanto, I do genuinely believe that Encanto deserved to win just as much as M v. M, if not more. So I’ve been a bit put off by how big mad my friends and mutuals have been about it on Twitter. It’s fine when they drag Disney as a company, I’m all for that. And it’s fine if they think Encanto didn’t deserve the win. But the amount of vitriol, conspiracies, and other rather rude tweets took me by surprise. And made me a bit uncomfortable, so I didn’t say anything, as I can be kind of bad with conflict.

But a lot of my mutuals were singing the praises of Encanto for it’s diversity and cultural representation just as much as they were doing the same for M v. M’s LGBTQ+ representation. So the complete 180 they did just because of Encanto winning the Oscar was wild. And they genuinely don’t seem to see the hypocrisy of hashtagging #OscarsSoWhite in the past, and being upset that a movie about a Latino family won over a white family. It’s just like you said.

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. Both movies were great, but TBH even if MvM was obviously the best movie of the nominees, I'd be suspicious if this year of all years the judges had decided quality mattered over studio popularity. Hell, if Luca and Encanto hadn't been released this year I would've been slightly suspicious if Mitchells won over Raya, and Raya was crap.

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

Vent Incoming:

So I've tried being Anti-Oscar, not so much because fuck the people doing all the keg work behind the scenes to make the magic happen, but because the cult of celebrity. I'm tired of it, and in many ways it's inescapable. There's actors and creators whose work I enjoy, there's movies I'd likely never hear about with film festivals and awards. But there's such a fixation and focus (at least by the media and I guess plenty of fandom) that makes idols, neo-aristocrats out of celebrities -- what they buy where they eat and go and do and I just could not give a shit. Like, what would happen if no attention was paid to any of these folks? I'm sure a reasonable amount of people would appreciate it (actors and performers ARE just people, they'd probably like privacy when they're food shopping leisurely on a Sunday), so why not? Like go be nosy about your neighbors! Stop the apotheosis of actors!stop giving industries POWER (and it could be argued this here is the true crux of the matter).

Obviously, I sound like some wannabe edgy teenager, and this could obviously be a far more nuanced conversation, I just had to vent/get it off my chest!

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I get where you're coming from and don't disagree.

Celebrity is an industry. We'd have to ban paparazzi, etc. to get rid of the incentive to make money from what famous people do.

The thing I hate right now is social media celebrity, because though I don't really care too deeply about A-list actors' personal drama, I give even less shits about youtubers and reality tv stars and those people being pushed on tiktok, but it's inescapable.

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

You're not wrong about any of it. The only reason you sound edgy is because you're so angry you sound like you do actually secretly care. I just stopped paying attention to any of it, and life is so much sweeter as a result.

Re: Celebrity/media news

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed.

Trailers

[iff_and_xor]

Trailer for Why Didn't They Ask Evans, British mystery, a new adaptation of the Agatha Christie story, directed and written by Hugh Laurie. Starring Will Poulter and Lucy Boynton, with Jim Broadbent and Emma Thompson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHcMlPCTTag


Trailer for The IPCRESS File, British spy thriller set in the 1960s, a new (loose) adaptation of the Len Deighton novel. Starring Joe Cole, Lucy Boynton, and Tom Hollander.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT0yc_6J3FA

Re: Trailers

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not super keen on Agatha Christie but with Jim Broadbent and Emma Thompson AND Hugh Laurie directing it, I want to see that one!