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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-11-15 05:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #5793 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5793 ⌋

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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-15 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get it. So you downloaded a porn game, found yourself surprised by the porn in the porn game, now want to talk about the porn game, but don't want to talk about the porn game with other porn fans?

Not to get ageist but is this a Gen Z thing with the weird anti-sex slant? Straight up, am I just too old to understand where OP is even coming from with this?

(Anonymous) 2022-11-15 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
So you downloaded a porn game, found yourself surprised by the porn in the porn game, now want to talk about the porn game, but don't want to talk about the porn game with other porn fans?

Honestly, this makes perfect sense to me. A lot of fandoms for explicitly pornographic media are really not places where I enjoy spending time.

And it also sounds like OP is most interested in the non-pornographic elements of the game, not the porn itself.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
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Huh. Fandoms for explicitly pornographic canons have been among my favorite social hangouts, because we're mostly spared the people who think erotic fic writers should be attacked for defiling canon.

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-15 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
It looks like OP didn't realise how porny it was, and after avoiding engaging with their mutuals who were into it for so long they feel like it would be awkward to bring up their enthusiasm with them, but also the other fans seem more into the porn than the plot so they've no obvious circle to squee about it in.

I might check this out - I'm not into risque games, but if it's got a good plot I can be persuaded.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
But... it explicitly advertises itself as being a hardcore porn game, that's the entire selling point. It's not like you don't know what it is going into it. It's so porny that it can't even be on the Google Play or iOS stores, you have to download it directly from the website.

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
But why? Why waste your time playing a game with core features you know you won't be into? That's counterproductive to your own enjoyment.

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-15 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
In what reality does any of what OP has said constitue as ageism? I swear to god fandom is on it's way to ruining that serious term as well because they're annoyed at irritating teenagers. Christ.

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
idk I'm having a hard time parsing the jargon. it's like half genz, half aging genxer trying to imitate what the teens are saying. and I say that as an aging genxer.

that said, I'm with anon below who said "the horny fangirl is you, OP." ain't a lot of oldbies incapable of saying fuck it and embracing their horny.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Sure feels that way, with a dash of "not like those OTHER girls."

Like... idk, I play this game and there really is no plot to speak of. Just enough "stuff happens" to string together gay sex scenes with pretty boys (whose personalities are just tropes vaguely held together with cum and duct tape). So any emotional investment would likely be from headcanons and coming up with your own stories about them-- which is great! The fandom also does that, amidst the porn, so it's rich to judge.

OP, you're into a porn game. It's fine. The fandom's pretty cool, despite your derision for things being horny.

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
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I don't think it's a Gen Z thing. I was on fandom!secrets back when it lived on LJ, and one of the most contentious recurring topics involved secrets with the general frame of "if you do X, I judge you." Or "I can understand X, but if you do Y, I'm side-eyeing that so hard."

A lot of those opinions seemed sexual, inappropriate, and petty to me. There seemed to be a concerted effort to try to shift the community agreement away from Your Kink Is Not My Kink, And That's Okay.

Some people in fandom seemed very driven to try to convince everyone else that their amount of prejudice was the IDEAL amount of prejudice. And that it was against the right things. And they certainly weren't "kids these days."

(Anonymous) 2022-11-15 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Make an alt and join the fandom

Or just admit you like it for the "plot", and ride out the "lol yeah the 'plot' right that's what you play it for' comments

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I do find it funny that you don't want to be in a fandom full of horny fangirls, when you got interested in the game just from the pictures of sexy anime guys, and you didn't know anything about the plot. The horny fan(girl?) is you, OP.

Don't worry, you can be emotionally invested in the plot and also into the horny. You're not the only one. In most porn games with fandoms, everyone is into both.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
It's okay to enjoy porn. Welcome to the fold, we have plentiful cock and cookies.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I don't go here but the guy in the white body suit with black thigh high boots looks like a total slut. Excellent.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
He is, in fact, a total slut. A perfect pathetic bottom. He's great haha

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
I wanted to know who this was, along with the lilac haired guy, and the blond at the end with the ferret/mink on his shoulder. That's all I want and need to know about this game.

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I don't go here either, but I'm into the second shortest guy. He looks like the type who tries to be cocky and confident but is actually shy and a total softie. And by looks like I mostly mean I want him to be that.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
No but I totally get what you mean, OP. Not regarding Nu Carnival (really I didn't play it because of how explicit it seemed to be, not in the sexy way, and too complicated to install; but I do know there's a guy who looks vaguely like Diluc so I did consider it one day) but there *are* some pieces of media with fandoms that are TOO full of horny fangirls/boys/what-have-you. Those in which you genuinely want to talk about some plot because you're emotionally invested, but everyone is yelling "_ is hot!!" . Nothing against it but I am the kind of person who feels the thrill over *writes 100-pages-long essay on how this blorbo is the blorboest ever because LORE* rather than squeeing.

This is, in fact, my biggest pet peeve with otome games fandoms like maybe I wouldn't dislike them so much if I could get past this pet peeve. On the other hand, BL manga fandom is surprisingly chill and comfy... for a porn genre. People actually discuss their innermost feelings occasionally. Crazy.

So, yeah. Even though everyone else seems to disagree, maybe I do get where you're coming from. Some fandoms ARE too full of squeeing for me as well

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
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"Nothing against it but I am the kind of person who feels the thrill over *writes 100-pages-long essay on how this blorbo is the blorboest ever because LORE* rather than squeeing."

Writing 100 pages about anything relating to a fandom is the squee-y-ist thing any fan could do. Also imagine getting annoyed at PORN GAME fans for squeeing about HOT CHARACTERS.

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
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I don't know this game either, but I can relate to feeling like you want a lot more meta than you're finding, in a particular fandom. There's times when porn has been my fallback, because there's usually still some plot and I get to see other people's take on the characters in more depth than the formulaic praise in (inarticulate, short-form) squee.

Because you mentioned Diluc, I ran into this exact issue in relation to Genshin Impact recently. If you know of anywhere people go to write long essays about Enjou (for example), instead of calling him a himbo and gushing briefly about the hot, I would like to know that.

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
There is a thin film of something icky all over this secret. Misogyny? Sex shaming? Do I have this right: you're attracted to the game by the pretty anime boys but you don't respect the women who love the pretty anime boy? You don't want to admit that you enjoyed the porn game because you're better than people who like porn games?

I dunno hun, once you've washed that off you can use multiple strategies to get into the fun. Hey pals! I just started this game you like and I blew so much money on gems so I could finish the whole thing and I want to talk about it! or Alright fine! You've won me over I'll give it a sho- Oh I love it! Neat! Or even! Say nothing and just start posting deep thoughtful meta and 10k long fic and when your friends are like ??? you can admit you've been into it for a while but feel embarrassed publicly squeeing over hot anime boys but you do feel comfortable engaging with media in other ways and you're ready to join in.

There are no limits do what you want fandom is fucking funny.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
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Haven't decided if I find the secret sanctimonious or not, but I think this is pretty good advice. Also, there's nothing inherently "weird" about letting a new canon make a place for itself in your thoughts before you feel like you have things to say about it.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like a lot of people are coming into this as if you're being judgmental, OP (the only assumption I see is you assuming the entirety of fandom is made up of horny fan girls, which is possible, but I'm not getting omg I'm better than u plebs vibes from this secret). What I'm really seeing is someone who feels that they missed the boat, and now doesn't know where to reach out to talk about something other than the porn.

I say this as someone who's usually in a fandom because MC is so hot, they melt my panties, but occasionally really gets into the character themselves or the dynamics of the world.

I think just put some feelers out, OP. Get a sock/alt account, make your own blog/Tumblr/whatever and just post the meta you're interested in. Tag accordingly, and maybe you'll get some people joining you.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
"I absolutely do not want to reach out to a fandom that I can only assume is made up of horny fangirls"

What part of this sounds like the words of someone who's just sad they might have missed the boat and not totally not judging the rest of the fandom?

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