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(Anonymous) 2023-04-30 02:26 am (UTC)(link)"I told you, I'm not Xena I'm Lucy Lawless"
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(Anonymous) 2023-04-30 01:39 am (UTC)(link)Unless you're talking about the Reagan-Era weapons program. In which case, you're correct and firing a civilian who worked on the Star Wars defense program for their political views would be a clear violation of their Constitutional rights.
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(Anonymous) 2023-04-30 02:22 am (UTC)(link)People don't have a legal, constitutional right that protects them from being fired for their political views - the First Amendment only protects people from government action. But firing people for their political views is still bad. It's a hindrance to free speech if employers have the right to veto their employee's speech or demand that they have certain political views, even if it's not the government doing it. So I get why people would be leery about it.
But I think we should also take a less absolutist stance with regard to this kind of social pressure than we should for government restrictions on speech. When it comes to the first amendment, we have really cut-and-dry prohibitions on the government doing anything to restrict speech, regardless of who's talking or what they're saying. And that makes sense when we're talking about the government because the government is so powerful.
But when it comes to social pressure and the actions of private individuals, we have to be more nuanced. After all, people do have a right to decide not to associate with other people; companies have a right not to hire people who have a very bad public image for prominent positions. You can't really regulate that out of existence. And there are some points of view that *should* be socially unpopular, because they're evil, and bad. Being an open Nazi (as the worst possible hypothetical example) *should* have severe social consequences. So it's a case-by-case thing. You have to think about the details of what happened, who it was, what they said, how they were affected by it, etc.
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(Anonymous) 2023-04-30 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)If you genuinely think that hating other human beings for who they are, innately, is political, I don't know how to tell you any different.
Carano's "politics" made her an ACTIVELY HOSTILE person to work with, because her "politics" involved stating that she viewed Pedro Pascal's sister as less than human, as less than deserving of basic rights, and that's a DAMN good reason to get kicked off a TV set. If you come even indirectly for the family of the person with top billing, they get to say they cannot work with you. That he tried for as long as he did to de-hostile the workplace as she became increasingly hostile is more than many would have given her, when the show did not revolve around her character and could be written without her.
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(Anonymous) 2023-04-30 02:13 am (UTC)(link)I guess it doesn’t much matter at this point. The last writer’s strike killed off half the scripted shows and made reality tv king. This new strike will finish the job and even afterwards we won’t have much to watch and it won’t be worth it. It barely is now.
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And I believe she was warned before she was canned. And she didn't stop, so...bye.
And that's so unbelievable because she was lined up to have her own spin off. But I guess those sweet burns were worth it.
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I agree, her character was a good part of the ensemble, but the actor just wasn't working well with the rest of the cast even before it started spilling out onto Twitter.
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(Anonymous) 2023-04-30 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)I never really got into her character, though, so I didn't feel the loss hard-- I'm gay, so maybe it's just that Hot Buff Lady doesn't appeal to me, but I do like the Armorer and Bo Katan, so like... maybe it's just that the actress' vibe was so rancid I couldn't connect to her character? Or maybe I'm all for badass ladies but not affected by seeing arms and it's just that simple.
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