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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-10 06:26 pm

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-10 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
That's because a lot of the canon queer characters are shit, sorry.

Like ones who exist just to be a walking Very Special Episode, or are written by cishet people who have no idea what LGBT people are actually like and think "is gay" or "is trans" is a personality trait.

Or because they end up getting fucked over down the line by writers who either don't know what they're doing or don't care.

See: Star Trek Discovery's gay doctor who immediately got his neck broken, then came back, then spent the entire subsequent series angsting about it and not getting to be happy with his husband because he got killed off for no reason after Star Trek adamantly refusing for decades to properly acknowledge gay people.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-10 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
WoT book fan here and this is an extremely valid and correct way to watch the series, yes absolutely

(Anonymous) 2023-06-10 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's especially ironic considering she herself thinks she can pull off the the youthful dainty fairy hanfu look. Like, look at yourself before you criticise other people for their looks.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-10 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
One could equally say that canon LGBTQ get more than their share of criticism and critical attention from viewers.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-10 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I get wanting more recognition of canon queer characters, but sometimes characters who don't have a textually explicit canon sexuality wind up being the ones that people relate to more.

I have one fandom where there are textually canonically gay characters that... I can relate to a little bit, and I really appreciate seeing the way they have two different stories and experiences, but I find both of them less interesting than an older man who FEELS gay to me, and who, if so, has a totally different set of life experiences that I can relate to more deeply! And, between those, a character who's INTENSELY relatable to me on pretty much every level, and of course I do think he's gay, and that makes him more relatable to me, just like headcanoning him as trans would make him more relatable to me. The canon gay characters are important to me, but they aren't personal to me. The story they tell is important to me, but it's not my story. (I mean I don't use Pride to hold up my guys at the expense of the canon gay characters, I celebrate canon queer characters when I get them, but, when I can't find canon gay characters that I relate to as deeply as I do to characters who are presented ambiguously/not given any romantic interests whatsoever, I mean... I can celebrate what canon gave me, but what I make for myself based on who speaks to ME is who I'm going to actually spend my time writing about all year round)


Neurodivergent characters... tbh, nine times out of ten, a character who is clearly autistic but the creator didn't have a label for is relatable on a level that a white boy who loves trains isn't? The characters who get labeled are STILL too often written as stereotypes, not as people-- meanwhile there are so many characters who are CLEARLY ND but sometimes they were written at a time when different diagnostic criteria and labels were in use, or if you read older stuff, when there WASN'T one, and they're fleshed out and interesting and easy to connect to. And it doesn't mean I don't appreciate some canon ND characters-- sometimes just for being a stepping stone on the journey to getting ones who are real and well-written.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-10 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't consider people's admitted overanalysis to be on the same level as decades of gay characters being killed off because it was the only way they were allowed to be seen, or made a teachable moment for the sake of the straights, or trans people's existence and/or genitals being a punchline, comparable.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-10 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that him? Because Hello, that is a HANDSOME man.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-10 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
You're right, but watch everyone here claim that canon queer characters are 'bad' to justify their obsession with cis-het white dudes who aren't even slightly subtextually queer.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-10 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure, but I don't think that all canon LGBTQ characters should have to bear the weight of that history. And it's not what's going on with all LGBTQ characters today.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-10 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean there's literally nothing wrong with being obsessed with characters who aren't canonically or even subtextually queer, outside of the way that it interacts with Pride
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2023-06-10 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I’ve never learned how to make a fanvid, but I find so many songs that I would use for a fanvid. For instance, this just goes with Persona 5: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sV8xToqlA4M

(Anonymous) 2023-06-10 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Genuine question, what media are you watching where this is even much of a thing anymore? We still have a ways to go in regards to trans-rep, as in there isn't enough variety of characters who are, but BYG's has gotten less and less common over the last several years to the point that I can't remember the last time I saw it(outside of some shitty B-movie).

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