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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-11-07 05:47 pm

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Re: Elections/Politics thread

(Anonymous) 2024-11-08 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
Kamala was just a bad candidate who ran a bad campaign, more like a talk show host, than any other reason. Trump didn't win, Harris lost it. She's not Oprah and nobody wanted a president who ran like Oprah who wasn't actually Oprah. She was coronated instead of primaried in, she spent most of the campaign acting like she'd already won, she took advice and bragged about taking advice from Hillary "already lost to him" Clinton on how to handle the debates, and refused to advance popular policies on Palestine or economic revolutions, told us to expect more of the same when the same isn't working, has never apologized for her past as a prosecutor, and her history with Biden's milquetoast White House showed she can play hardball with poor people in court but not with her fellow Democrats on forcing them to confront issues like the most corrupt court in history.

Unless the Democrats have full clear out, really clean house, then I'm not voting for them again. The Democrats inability to do anything about their own broken system is a bigger long term danger to America than Trump is, even if he seems that way now. He can't run again, whatever happens, so this whole Presidency is Trump's lameduck Presidency, and for a dude who bases his personality on just campaigning, winning is probably the worst that can happen to him, but the Democrats always pandering to their donors, hiding from the issues, seeking to be in majority but not in power, always putting up their own internal saboteurs like Manchin to ensure they never have to take hard decisions, that is breaking the Two Party system all on its own. That is making it a one Party GOP system no matter who gets into the White House. That is what we need to fix. If the GOP are going to be in charge no matter who is in majority, they might as well be in the majority and we all admit it.

No more illusory Democrat Governments. They get their act together, or they fall and we get a new second party in a couple of decades who will. All of you freaking out, contact your democrat candidates and representatives such as remain and tell them to win next time they better start playing hardball. They go into every battle acting like they are going to win (even, and especially, like they can't) and raise holy hell if they lose. Some real fire and brimstone, and that they put their damn house in order. No more milquetoasts, no more coronations, no more party grandees, no more reliable traitors, those guys all get run out the party on a rail.

Then they'll be fit to vote for.

Re: Elections/Politics thread

(Anonymous) 2024-11-08 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
I would have liked a female President but she certainly wasn't the right choice.

Re: Elections/Politics thread

(Anonymous) 2024-11-08 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
Eh she did the best she could in a short span of time. Just admit America is full of ignorant sexist people. If people were at all educated or able to think it shouldnt have mattered who they picked, they were running against an elderly criminal rapist who has a record if being president and not coming through on any of his promises.

Re: Elections/Politics thread

(Anonymous) 2024-11-08 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
This. It's way easier to just blame Kamala for the failure instead of looking inside and admitting that America has a racism and sexism problem.

Sure, Dems probably could have been smarter about the entire campaign (starting from Joe's part) but fascism vs being able to afford food and have rights wasn't a hard choice.

America chose to go back to her abuser because that's apparently what she knows and what she's familiar with.

Re: Elections/Politics thread

(Anonymous) 2024-11-08 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. It's misogynoir, pure and simple.

Re: Elections/Politics thread

(Anonymous) 2024-11-08 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
They go into every battle acting like they are going to win (even, and especially, like they can't) and raise holy hell if they lose.
...she spent most of the campaign acting like she'd already won...

Yeah you sure make a lot of sense.

Re: Elections/Politics thread

(Anonymous) 2024-11-08 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
No, what happened is that people let perfect be the enemy of "vote like you might die." We're in an era of the left tearing itself apart over moral purity an vibes meaning more than action, and all this "both sides bad" bullshit is patting yourself on the back for not doing fucking anything while crying about how Russian Asset Jill fucking Stein isn't liked more.

The Democrats haven't had a fucking supermajority in over a decade, and thus can barely pass anything. Congrats, Reagan's groundwork has borne fruit--and you're gobbling it up like the pig prepped for slaughter he wanted you to be.

I will have zero sympathy for you when your loved ones die to Trump or get deported or get hospitalized and end up in severe life-changing medical debt over his deregulation. Fuck off and choke on your pride and moral purity, you're no friend to anyone but straight white cishet Christian men.

Re: Elections/Politics thread

[personal profile] hey_hey_hey 2024-11-08 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
The US didn't want another Black president, especially a woman. I don't know why people refuse to accept that.

refused to advance popular policies on Palestine or economic revolutions, told us to expect more of the same when the same isn't working, has never apologized for her past as a prosecutor

Why would she do that? This is a center right country, at best, it's no wonder she tried to run to the center. Get ready for a bunch of Bill Clinton clones because Democrats won't run on anything resembling progressive for a long time.

Re: Elections/Politics thread

(Anonymous) 2024-11-08 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)

Re: your last paragraph

Yes, essentially this. All people like AYRT are doing is send the message to the Republicans that they can be as openly bigoted and disdainful of minorities as they like, they will still win, and to the Dems that they have to cater to center-right, because that's where the votes are.

"Progressives" have proven that they aren't capable of turning out in high enough numbers to counter the conservative voter-turnout. They had the complete antithesis of everything they claim to stand for as their enemy and still couldn't be moved to go out and vote.

The lesson from that isn't to go more progressive next time, it's not to bother with progressives at all.

I'm so sorry for all the people on the left who realised what was at stake and voted, even if Harris wasn't their preferred choice, just to be let down by their own side.

Re: Elections/Politics thread

(Anonymous) 2024-11-08 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)

Unless the Democrats have full clear out, really clean house, then I'm not voting for them again. The Democrats inability to do anything about their own broken system is a bigger long term danger to America

Do you genuinely think that the Republicans have a cleaner house than the Democrats? Because if you don't, that line of thinking makes zero sense. And if you do, I would like you to name the Dems that are as racist, homophobic, transphobic, classist and misogynistic as the Republicans have shown themselves to be in the last few years.

You're refusing to vote for a Democratic Party because of a few stains while indirectly (or possibly directly) voting for a Republican Party that gleefully wrestles in the mud.

Re: Elections/Politics thread

(Anonymous) 2024-11-08 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Harris came in showing that she was ready and willing to do the job.

And you really said... "HOW DARE YOU?" Really?

Do you go into every battle acting like you are going to lose? How does that make sense? The attitude is what carries you through in any fight. You don't pretend you're going to lose unless you have some sneaky, underhanded shit planned for when the winner is declared.

Like, imagine if you were applying for a job and got called in for an interview. And instead of saying "I've read up on this company/I am ready to present ideas that support the company's vision/I will do my part in continuing to make this company successful/etc," you said, "Oh my god, I'm trash and you shouldn't hire me/I'm such a loser I couldn't even be bothered to research your company/Boohoo woe is me," Well, unless it's for a reverse psychology company, I'd be shocked if that strategy worked.

And... I'm not even sure what your complaint is here. Do you think Democrats feel... entitled to something? I suppose that's possible, but have the American people looked at themselves? Because we're not any better. Hell, we might be worse. The Democrats offer us things, but somehow it's never enough. I'm not talking about basic rights and affordable goods and housing, of course. I mean we want a magic wand waved and all our problems gone forever, all the problems that are consistently caused by Republicans. We are a very instant gratification people, and don't want to work for our democracy. We don't want to come back to make sure it's still functional.

People whine that Obama didn't do shit?

Did they come back in 2010 during the midterms, to help retain a Democratic Congress that would have helped him carry out his promises?

Or did they wait until 2012 because they thought only the big years matter?

Did they think about it and show up to midterms in 2014 to turn around the dwindling numbers of Democrats in office? (For the record, I fucked up this year for personal reasons, so I'll take my share of the blame.)

Do they vote for the top office and ignore the rest of the ballot?

And nevermind Federal elections. Do they ever bother with their own state runoffs and local elections?

I bet these are the same people who complain that weirdos are banning books and making the kids dumber at school and censoring everything, but they can't seem to understand why. Well, it's a mystery. It must be the Democrats' fault.

We barely know how our own government works, we don't get that there are three branches of government with checks and balances. That means the damn President can't just do whatever she wants, she needs Congress to agree with her. Also, Congress can't just pass whatever legislation they feel like without Presidential approval (although this can change with a supermajority). And so on. But the powers have been falling out of balance for a while now. We have a Conservative Court, and the election results show an onboarding Republican President with a Republican Congress. Yeah, I guess the Democrats could've done more. But did you do what you could to ensure they were in a position to do so?

We the people need to get the fuck over ourselves and start showing up for each other. Your LGBTQ siblings, your minority buddies, your disabled family member, your daughters and nieces. JFC, this was not a hard choice.

I don't fully blame American voters though. Citizens United is the worst culprit here. Corporations pouring their money into Super PACs, giving Republicans a wide edge over everything. Democrats tend to do things that are more for the people (yes, yes, I know, not all), so it's not surprising they don't have the advantage. And I don't think it was an accident that the SC decision happened the year after Obama was sworn in.