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Not the imfamous people (tar season, soap dish, etc) but some of the discussion threads we've had. Any of them stick with you and make you ponder?

There was one awhile ago about inherent bias you had and had to unlearn as you grew up and there was a group of people that were disgusted and shocked that people were admitting to former low key racist or homophobic thoughts or beliefs they used to have. I think about those people a lot. It's just a bizarre concept to me to think you've never had an unkind or uneducated type of belief and then insult people for admitting they did and growing past it. Idk just the idea that people can't change or that once you've had a negative thought it marks you as a bad person even after you've grown and changed. And the idea that people genuinely believe they've never had a "wrong" thought or bias they've had to unlearn. The whole thing is interesting to me, not good or bad just interesting, and I ponder it now and then.

Those people definitely have current racist/homophobic/sexist thoughts or beliefs and they're acting on them and completely unaware of it because they think they can't possible have them. I waffle on who is worse, those guys or out-and-out bigots.

That's my kneejerk reaction but I try to keep an open mind and take others at their word about their lived experience. But it's definitely an outlier that people would never have any sexist/racist/homophobic/etc thoughts. There are so many inherent bias in our society that it seems almost impossible to have grown up aware of all of them.

That reminds me of the story of some Rabbis that went to a museum, I think the Museum of Tolerance, and to get in you have to choose which door to go through, Prejudiced or Unprejudiced. They banged and banged and banged on the Unprejudiced door to try to get in. But there's just a wall behind the Unprejudiced "door" because such a person does not exist.

Re: Past threads you think about now and then

(Anonymous) - 2026-02-09 00:33 (UTC) - Expand

Yeah, I suspect they don't realize how deep these things can go. It's okay to have a shitty thought, as long as you later realize it was a shitty thought (which may take some unpacking for months, maybe years) and try really hard not to have that thought again (or at least beat it away until it doesn't come back).

I think about that one too.

I remember one person saying "I've never said a racial slur" and that much is relatively believable, because I've never said one either. Plus some people just don't use those words or profanity at all.

But the ones that were like, I have never had a single racist thought, even unintentionally... those are the scary ones, who if someone of the race they're talking about pointed out they sound racist, they'd get offended and refuse to believe it because they aren't racist so they couldn't possibly have done or said an unintentionally racist thing. Instant wariness of those people.

Yeah, I remember that thread. I was on the side of the shocked and appalled though. Not because of people not being able to grow and change, but because a number of these people were not just having a misguided take, or negative thought. But because at least one of them openly admitted to constantly and consistently using the N word when thinking about black people, even though they'd never say it outloud and knew it was wrong.
That isn't a mistake you grow past, even if you're raised with only those words in your ears, it's been too long for you too keep using them, no matter how old you are. Being raised with those words means you're raised with the intention behind them. To not fight against that ingrained bigotry the moment you know that it's wrong means you're living being alright with those meanings.

I'm not going to go and say anyone who had a bigoted thought or opinion is constantly projecting hate and disgust as a trait of who they are, that would be stupid. After all, as the famous Avenue Q song goes, "Everyone is a little bit racist".
No, people can grow and learn and can adapt to a different way of being from the people who raised them. People can change. But for the people who admitted to currently having those thoughts even if they denied having those opinions, I question, because those go hand in hand.

They remind me of people I know IRL who are very, "I've always been on the right side of history." If I acknowledge I used to think Trump was a mostly ignorant idiot, but it wasn't until he actually became president that I realized that he is actually a regular racist rich man, oh boy, do I have stories about multiple people who figuratively began dancing with glee at how they always knew he's racist monster.
Like, all right. Good to know you never gave anyone the benefit of the doubt and it always worked in your favor.

I don't trust the words of people who say they have always been socially aware and had no ignorances to grow out of. These types have shown to me that they're really judgmental, tend to see things with black/white (good/bad) logic, and have the emotional range of an Ikea teaspoon.

Wow, you really picked the guy who has been openly, aggressively racist in word and deed since at least the last 40 years for this one, huh? The guy who was still trying to prove that Obama was a stealth African who couldn’t be the real president when he announced his run? No one is born self-aware, but also there’s Wikipedia.

nayrt, but for the record, I didn't know much about Trump until he won the 2016 nomination. He was just some rich guy from NYC with a tower, a shitty combover and a reality TV show. I had no reason to care until that point in time.

Obviously, people from New York knew what a piece of shit he was, so nothing surprised them. I'm sure it was infuriating to watch the rest of the country fall for the bullshit he spewed.

As for me, the more I learned about him, the less I liked about him. Having grown up in a narcissistic household, I could see he was waving all the red flags. There are so many people I will never forgive for casting their vote for him more than once.

As for those who wished to give him a chance in 2016, you can't just assume that everybody knew or "should have" known. Of course Wikipedia exists, but the average American doesn't research their candidates, otherwise they wouldn't vote against their self-interests again and again. (Also, America has a racism and misogyny problem it doesn't want to admit to, but that's for another discussion.)

Re: Past threads you think about now and then

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Re: Past threads you think about now and then

(Anonymous) - 2026-02-09 21:29 (UTC) - Expand

AYRT
Thanks for being the example I was speaking of.

I chose Trump specifically because pre-2016, I wrote him off as an attention seeking asshole who was using politics to keep up his celebrity. Everything he did was just for attention, but when his campaign began to gain momentum and more and more really dark and serious accusations and stories came out did I realize that I'd been naive to think he was simply an opportunist. I should have seen that yes, he is an opportunist, but he is an actively hateful man who is ten toes in with upholding the status quo. He's not just saying shit to get all eyes on him.

I hate telling people about my experiences like this, because I tell it to try to appeal to people to not brush off everyone as useless and stupid. But most times, people use my words and experiences to compare to themselves and pat themselves on the back for being better than me.
Yet these people wonder why there is mistrust and a lack of people being smart like them.

People might not want to join the wokey left if all they get is woke-scolded and be reminded who the real progressives are.

I don't believe that the entrance fee to new places is a humiliation ritual, which I think is something a lot of angry people are wanting right now. To prove you're no longer a mindless idiot, tell us all your former idiot beliefs and we'll shame and mock you before we decide if you're even allowed in.
No room for grace or to hear how those who grew out of their ignorance has changed or done better. Just gotta ensure we're better than them by loudly declaring how DUMB and WRONG they are to us, those of us who have never thought wrong and will never be wrong.

And before anyone comes in with a bad faith gotcha of "So we're just going to let MAGA folks get away with their racism because they didn't know better?"
No, that's not what I said nor what I'm arguing for.
What I'm saying is, no human is perfect and it would do well to remember that because some people forget that those they judge and they themselves are human.
And all this dick measuring is distracting us from doing the work needed (though tbf seeing less in-fighting these past couple weeks).

[FTR I consider myself progressive, am queer and a WOC; grew up in majority white towns and no one in my life is particularly active or interested in politics or social history, don't have a big social network.
I spoke openly and often that Trump was unfit to be president. I understood that if he became president his administration would do all sorts of racist and sexist shit, but I was putting the blame on the people around Trump, thinking he was just a dumb prop. In reality, he's more than a prop. There are more ways Trump gained power than just he found racists to vote for him, that's why when he started his second term I understood it's more than just having the right opinions that need to be done to fight fascism]

Re: Past threads you think about now and then

(Anonymous) - 2026-02-09 21:29 (UTC) - Expand

There was a thread where someone mentioned the color of eggshells, and apparently some commenters were so offended by the existence of a white eggshell, that they blamed US agriculture for making eggs inferior or something. When all it means is that the egg was laid by a chicken with white earlobes.

Anyway, that was weird.

Earlobes?

There is a thing in the US where commercial white eggs have really thin shells. But yeah, the color of the shell just depends on the type of chicken. I loved having green and brown eggs growing up.

I've found in some cases the brown shells were thinner. But it varied with the brand.

NA but eggshell thickness is mostly down to whether the hens laying them get enough calcium and enough time between laying eggs to digest it so it's available to make the shells.

And if they don't get enough they get brittle bones, and thin enough shells can break inside them so they get egg peritonitis, which leads to sepsis and death.

LOL, what? I must've missed that one, but yeah... weird.

I remember back when there were some secrets about the British monarchy and some nonny was either trolling, or really did NOT understand how succession worked. They were adamant that because (formerly, lol) Prince Andrew was Elizabeth II's second son, he'd be in line for the throne after Charles. This person didn't understand that no, Charles' sons would come before Andrew. He doesn't jump ahead of William and Harry.

I was reminded of it because of all the Epstein Files related stuff and Andrew getting stripped of his royal titles but every time I watch or read something that involves fights over succession (historical fiction stuff, documentaries) I think of that nonny and wonder if they were serious or what.

LMAO I guess this person never came across the joke about the second prince being a partying/meddling shit all because he's not in line for succession (especially if the elder brother starts having kids)

Some threads where people were asking for advice on a personal struggle or venting about a messy situation have stuck with me, I randomly think of old threads and hope things turned out okay for the OPs.

I've used the FS Gen Comments as a place to seek for help or to vent. Thank you to everyone who has been kind and helpful! At least one of those OP is doing a lot better! I can never say thank you enough to those that helped a stranger on here!

I think of many of those OPs too. I hope they're OK too. ♡

Last year I wrote a comment asking for advice and I was honestly surprised by how helpful and sincere everyone was. I did not get one single rude or trolling remark, nor did anyone try to twist my words. It was honestly such a change from what you usually see online. I would also like to thank everyone who has responded to people asking for advice.

Re: Past threads you think about now and then

(Anonymous) - 2026-02-09 22:22 (UTC) - Expand

I think about those anons a lot too. I love when people come back and will post a little update, especially if it is a positive one.

Every now and then I get the giggles when I think about someone making gross comments about women in a thread where I can't remember what the topic was...A nonny replied with a simple "ew" and they had a defensive crashout over it.

Honestly sometimes people crash out over the most mundane or minor things, and it can be so fascinating.

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