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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-03-23 04:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #1174 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1174 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 117

[identity profile] powercorrupts.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I know you intend some form of sympathy, but this gets said a lot and it never feels like sypmathy. It always feels like "my problems are worse than yours, shut up and be happy."

Were someone to try to tell you the opposite, I doubt it would make you happy. Most likely it would make you argue.

Not the anon you're replying to

(Anonymous) 2010-03-23 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Anon can remark anyway they want to, it's a COMMENT system, not a SUPPORT THE BAWWWING OP system.

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

[identity profile] powercorrupts.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, well anon is a pretty goddamn big fucking baby if she takes someone else's BAWWWWWW and says NO LISTEN MY BAWWWWWW IS WORSE THAN YOURS, DON'T YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T FEEEL MY PAAAAIN.

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

(Anonymous) 2010-03-23 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Big boobs can lead to:

Back problems, need for surgery, heightened probability of breast cancer, feeling shy, feeling sexually oppressed, the inability to find any clothes that fit you etc.

Small boobs will lead to:

not feeling sexy.

When I get out of my eventual surgery to correct my E chest, I'll be thinking about this girl's BAWWWWing and fucking laughing my stitches out.

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

[identity profile] powercorrupts.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, so "feeling shy, feeling sexually oppressed, the inability to find any clothes that fit you etc" can't apply to women with small breasts? Oh, nevermind, it's the internet. Everyone knows more about living other people's lives than the original person ever could.

Laugh your stitches out, it's probably the only time you'll ever feel pain as a result of someone else's problem in your life. Might be a new feeling.

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

(Anonymous) 2010-03-23 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
>SPOILER

YOU'RE BEING TROLLED

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

[identity profile] powercorrupts.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty hard to tell when this is the only kind of response breast secrets ever get in these parts. Troll, legitimate asshole, they look pretty similar when no one ever responds with any trace of reason to boob secrets.

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

(Anonymous) 2010-03-24 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
FWIW (not much) I don't think you're being trolled. I work in a plastic surgery office where both reductions and augmentations (as well as reconstructions from mastectomies, etc) are booked, and the emotional or psychic pain that small-chested women suffer is, honestly, hard to get cranked up over compared to the sometimes-literally crippling pain of women with exceptionally large breasts. A woman with small breasts can choose to augment with padded bras, silicone boosters, even prostheses if they choose, and some do. Granted it only works when they're dressed, and there is an element of oh no what is going to happen when these come off in an intimate situation, but it's still something. For the woman with severe kyphosis from large breasts, there is no every day quick fix, just pain, and often a sense that everyone in the world owns your boobs and can feel free to comment, leer, even touch.

I'm just saying, you might not like how it was said to you, but there is merit in what was said.

-- happy b/c cupper.

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

(Anonymous) 2010-03-24 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much for this.

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

(Anonymous) 2010-03-23 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Small boobs :

not feeling like a 'woman', feel like everyone treats you like a child, feeling shy, feeling shy in sexual situations, the inability to find clothes that fit you.

I'm happy to have small boobs and I don't care about those stuffs, but for some girl it's hard.

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

(Anonymous) 2010-03-23 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
And of course, feeling shy >>>>>>> life-threatening illness/chronic pain/disability

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

(Anonymous) 2010-03-23 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, because most women with larger breasts have life threatening illnesses as a result. Everyone I know with a C cup or larger has just about died from big-boob-disease.

Some women with exceptionally large breasts have serious health complications. If you're one of them, I'm very sorry. But really, the secret was about having smaller than average breasts. Meaning, OP is comparing her breasts to average/slightly larger than average size. And yes, low self-esteem, shyness, not being able to find clothes that fit, and being desexualized in the media and often in real life are real problems. The OP is allowed to have problems that aren't your problems.

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

(Anonymous) 2010-03-23 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Except small breasted women get breast cancer too. (Hell, men get breast cancer, but you never hear about that.) Back pain? Buy a damn bra that fits. For God's sake. 28E repre-fucking-senting right here, and it's NOT THAT HARD. Yes, it's more expensive. Yeah, you have to order online.

But if you get a bra that fits properly? Guaran-damn-tee you a lot of women with back problems will stop having them.

(Also, breast cancer is not related to the size of the tatas. It's related to the genetic make-up of the cells that form the tatas. "Larger" breasts just mean more breast tissue that has the risk of a genetic problem occurring. I put larger in quotes because honestly? A 36A has the same amount of boobage as myself. It's just distributed differently. Yet most people would say I'm larger with the E cup.)

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

[identity profile] ayeayes.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, the only problems I've had with it was when I was in my teens, being constantly mistaken for being about five years younger. My problem wasn't so much "BAWWW, I want big boobs so I can be HAWT!!!" as it was being about 15 and being constantly mistaken for a ten year old. :/
But then again, I've always been thought to be much younger than I am....how annoying.

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

[identity profile] pippie-poppins.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
You'll like that when you're way older. (So I'm told) I'm 25 and people think I'm 19. It's not so terrible.

My mom is in her early 60's and looks 45. I cannot WAIT for that.

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

[identity profile] ayeayes.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeaaah, I forgot to mention how SICK and TIRED I am of hearing that ALL THE TIME, and how much I wanna raeg the millions of times I've heard that line.
I guess I should've brought that up before someone here mentioned it....It's not the LEAST BIT comforting now.

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

(Anonymous) 2010-03-24 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Man, you are one selfish fuck! No room for sympathy for anyone but yourself? AWESOME.

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

(Anonymous) 2010-03-24 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, let's try a different example.

You have very small, thin, dainty feet. Everyone compliments you on your beautiful feet, tells you how lucky you are to have them, how much they want them. Except your feet are so thin and small it is agony to walk on them.

Do you see why people are getting pissed off now?

Re: Not the anon you're replying to

(Anonymous) 2010-03-23 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey retard, way to know how ANONYMOUS COMMENTING works. Of course people baw, fandomsecrets is one big baw fest.

That's all that happens on the internet, bro.

Re: 117

(Anonymous) 2010-03-23 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
It might not have been meant as sympathy.

Me, my GGs, and my chronic back pain won't give you an ounce of it.

BAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWW

Re: 117

[identity profile] oltha_heri.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Well, actually, women with larger breasts do actually have worse problems. Small breasts don't cause back strain, and a number of other physical issues.

Not to mention they are hugely impractical, and, when natural, are often associated with a larger body type that isn't found attractive by our society and thus there are few pluses to having significantly sized breasts.

And apparently people are talking like C's and D's when they say large, I'm talking about larger than that in this thread. (Sorry for the multiple edits in your inbox.)
Edited 2010-03-24 04:23 (UTC)

Re: 117

[identity profile] powercorrupts.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Idk, I didn't assume OP meant that large. The people who always reply to these secrets, however - even the ones that never mention large breasts - do tend to assume that somehow any discussion of small breasts must be taken over by how good they have it. I never really think I've ever seen a single discussion on small (and to clarify, by small I don't mean B's any more than I think OP meant anything as large as an E or larger) breasts that didn't derail into the entire discussion being about large breasts.

I understand that there are problems - especially health problems - associated with large breasts. I would just like to, for once, however see a discussion on the self-esteem of a woman with small breasts not become a field for insulting that same body type.

I'm pretty hormonal right now, and I didn't say things very well earlier. I probably can't say things very well right now - I have huge self-esteem issues about the whole subject, and I hate to admit it, but just trying to figure out how to phrase to people how demeaned every comment here has made me feel made me cry and give up earlier. My comment was more intended along the lines that never have I ever seen, in a discussion originally about large breasts, people storm in en masse to tell them all to shut up because they have no right to complain. And, on the other hand, never have I not seen the same happen on a discussion about small breasts.

And I suspect most people here aren't agreeing on terms. I would consider a D to be large, the same way that many people here are calling B's small. And you know, personally, to me B's being considered totally ittybitty - and AA's not even being considered, too small for people to mention - seems honestly bizarre because I was already an adult before I even grew into an A cup.

Re: 117

[identity profile] oltha_heri.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
I'm probably not in the best frame of mind to deal with subject either as I just had my godmother finally get her breast reduction surgery and the hassle (which was totally worth it, she had E's and back problems) has been around me recently.

I would just like to, for once, however see a discussion on the self-esteem of a woman with small breasts not become a field for insulting that same body type.
I think the problem is that most of us do have issues with our bodies and those problems can be pretty deep rooted and serious. And I have seen discussions about the self-esteem issues of large breasted women also become about how BUT OMG EVERYBODY SAYS THAT IS WHAT'S ATTRACTIVE BE HAPPY YOUR NOT A TRIPLE A, or something. I consider B and C average and A's and else small, and unfortunately like you, D large (it's my own size and way more impractical than one would think, I also irrationally blame them and see them as a fact that I am big, I don't mean fat, it's just I'm tall and broad and I just look at my breasts and think YOUR PART OF THIS AREN'T YOU!). Two of my best friends in high school had teeny breasts and it was always kind of like, why do they get to wear pretty bras and v-neck shirts without showing too much, and more importantly why do they get to pull off dressing androgynously? I even went through a period of binding my breasts. It's just one of those situations where the grass is always seen as greener, and it's always kind of annoying to see someone tout or regret the fact that they have what you see as better.

And to be honest my first reaction to this secret had nothing to do with my or other people's confidence issues, and was: Billie Piper doesn't have small breasts. And there are actresses who are touted as sex symbols who, at least in my mind, legitly have small breasts.

Re: 117

(Anonymous) 2010-03-28 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU.
I'm a girl. I'm 5'9" and taller than most of the boys I know. The ones who are taller than me like really short girls.
Now, I know that it shouldn't matter and that a girl can be taller than a guy and that there's no reason the guy should be the big, tall, protective one and the girl should be the tiny, delicate, feminine one.
I know that thinking it should be that way is very sexist.
I know that most models are tall.
I know that it makes you a good basketball player (actually, being a good basketball player makes you a good basketball player. Being tall makes it even more embarrassing when you suck at basketball and every other sport ever inveted).
I know that lots of girls want to be tall.
When I feel ugly and awkward and masculine becuase of my height, none of this matters at all to me.
So please, please, friends, family members, people I barely know but still feel the need to comment on my hieght, keep that in mind. Sometimes, a person just needs some goddamn sympathy, no matter how stupid her problems may seem.
I'm sorry about the emo rant, and realize it has almost nothing to do with the secret, but I that comment really applies to how I feel when I hear "Oh, but you're so LUCKY to be tall! You can reach stuff on high shelves!" (You get to feel secure and feminine around boys. I get to reach shit on high shelves. Whoop-dee-tap-dancing-doo for me.)

Re: 117

[identity profile] ether-bunny.livejournal.com 2010-03-29 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Just for a little vote of confidence: my mother and father are both 5'9. My mom considers herself oddly tall and my dad considers himself oddly short (although I think it's generally considered average). My paternal grandparents are also both about that height. And the two relationships are the strongest ones I've seen in my family! So even if it's hard sometimes (which I'm sure it is - I actually inherited the paternal shortness and I top out at 5'1 and actually prefer short boys) there is still a lot of potential there. Don't give up!