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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-08-16 07:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #1687 ]

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
04. http://i51.tinypic.com/nf37s.jpg

[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
In b4 pedo comment...

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
This pairing always weirded me out, even as a kid. ;__; I get that CLAMP is all about Soul Mates AKA Your One Important Person And It Doesn't Matter Who You/They Are, but this pairing just doesn't work for me...

[identity profile] closetospring.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
lol not related to CCS, and not quite as bad, but I just started a rewatch of SailorMoon/first time watching the entire subbed anime (I've read the manga), and in the original anime Mamoru is in college while the inner senshi are, of course, 14. so I'm spending a bunch of episodes going WTF MAMORU YOU'RE AN ADULT WHY ARE YOU DATING A 14 YEAR OLD?? BACK OFF CREEPER. WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?? and when it's Rei it's not even justified by some kind of "deep down they know they're soulmates from a past life!" logic.

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[identity profile] historiennelys.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Who's that with Sakura? #n00b

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[identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I had the exact same problem, anon. I actually thought their relationship was really sweet and adorable back when I read it the first time, and then...well, I got older and realized how fucked up that'd be (and how fucked up it'd make a kid).

And you know, I could almost let it squeak by if he wasn't her teacher. That's the ickiest part.

[identity profile] stella-down.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I kind of feel this way about Subaru and Seishirou circa Tokyo Babylon, but apparently their love is so ~epic and kawaii~ that it transcends the creepiness. well, until volume 7, I guess.

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(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Somehow I had totally forgotten about that part...

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Well, the age of consent is 13 in Japan so make of that what you will

But yeah, the whole thing still squicked me out

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(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
CLAMP gonna CLAMP, I guess.

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[identity profile] mclachlan.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Oh god, the SAME thing happened to me.

My sister and I were cleaning out some old shit and we found our CCS manga in a box in the basement, so naturally we opened them up and began pointing out our favorite scenes. Then we got into a big discussion about the Rika/Terada thing and how sweet we thought it was when we were younger, and then we acted out this big Chris Hansen scene. I'm now 24, she's 21.

But yeah. That shit is Pedobear Approved.
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[identity profile] lit-wolf.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Oh I agree so much! If it was just her having a one-sided crush on him, I would be totally fine with that. But the fact that he not only returns her feelings, but he also gives her a freaking promise ring! Like he intends to marry her one day?! What were you thinking, Clamp! What the fuck?! Creepy creepy CREEPY!

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I've recently been meaning to re-read it, too. I'm kinda afraid it won't be the same... But I have faith that CLAMP has trained me well for fucked-up pairings.

Now that I think about it though, I wonder what her parents have to say about their relationship. DAMN YOU, EARTH LOGIC.

[identity profile] lipstickcrisis.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
This always makes me kind of sad... I read CCS when I was 10 so I thought their relationship was really sweet. Now that I'm much older it skeeves me out. A part of me is sad that I can't appreciate everything about CCS like I could when I was younger, but obviously I would be alarmed if I saw nothing wrong with their relationship.

[identity profile] rose-papillon.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
HAHAHAHA.... Pedo Sensei.
Yeah, that whole thing's creepy as fuck.
At least they toned it down in the anime.
I was always freaked out by that one scene in the final volume of the Cardcaptor Sakura manga where Sakura finds Rika alone in the park.
After Sakura leaves, Terada Sensei emerges from behind a fucking tree asking Rika "is she gone?".
Holy shit dude, you're actively hiding your relationship with your 10 year old student?
You know, because it's a crime and you shouldn't be doing it? Yeah...messed up.

[identity profile] magnetic-regina.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
I nearly screamed in horror when he gave her a ring. She's ten, back the fuck away.

[identity profile] masterfedora.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Hahaha I feel terrible that it doesn't bother me. Maybe cause it's CLAMP and...well y'know CLAMP. I still think it's sweet and oddly innocent. If it was real life it would be gross and wrong, but it's not. It's shiny CCSland and somehow that makes it work for me.

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[personal profile] azurite 2011-08-17 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
OMG yes! When I re-read the manga in its omnibus release, I was like "You mean...I didn't misunderstand that? They really...and she really...? And WHAT?!" I mean, even if he's NOT that old (let's pretend he's an insanely intelligent, young teacher in his mid-20s), it's still skeevy.

WTF, CLAMP?!

Or maybe it's not just CLAMP...

[identity profile] neoyi.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, he's 40ish? I always thought he was in his 20s. Granted, this doesn't make the pairing any better. I love CCS, but yeah, the pairing kind of weird me out, too.

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(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
as creepy as their relationship would be if it was real (seriously. no one should ever even begin to think about that shit), i don't think clamp meant for anyone to read into it beyond a fantasy context. they are known for their "love transcends all" theme, and this includes gender and age- in many cases it's taboo and/or tragic. love may transcend all, but it doesn't always conquer all or end happily. since it's fictional, it didn't "bother" me like it would have otherwise.

idk. like another anon said. it's clamp being clamp.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
It's CLAMP, though. Comes with the territory, y'know?

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
I always thought the relationship was supposed to be a purely escapist fantasy designed to appeal to the target audience of young Japanese schoolgirls. What young student HASN'T had a fantasy about kissing or marrying a teacher?
However, when you look back on these crushes, in retrospect, they will feel foolish, pervy, embarrasing, or amoral. Ugh.

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(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
It's mostly creepy. But because CCS is fantasy we can just easily write it off as pure, true love. (no sarcasm) But it's still hard to justify a relationship like that.

ugh

(Anonymous) 2011-08-17 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
There's a scene toward the end of the manga that squicked me out, where Rika meets him on a secret date. WTF were CLAMP thinking?? This manga was being read by young impressionable schoolgirls, and it's telling them it's OK to go meet your teacher for SECRET DATES because he totally just wants to go on picnics and hikes and stuff.

[identity profile] neoclassicneko.livejournal.com 2011-08-17 06:25 am (UTC)(link)
There's nothing wrong with the age. It's just a number. Love has no bounds ^_^
I know I would looooove to have an older guy XD

He would be hot and be able to buy me things to LOL!

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