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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-09-17 03:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #1719 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1719 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 11 pages, 256 secrets from Secret Submission Post #246.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - hit/ship/spiration ], [ 0 - omgiknowthem ], [ 0 - take it to comments ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-17 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
hi there BJR.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-17 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
cant be. it looks like it took a more advanced program than paint to make

(Anonymous) 2011-09-17 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to mention BJR loves all of the villains in this fandom a little too much to give a damn about whatever it was Petrel did to Silver.

As a side note, refresh my memory. What was it that Petrel did that the others didn't do? I'd look it up on Bulbapedia, but that requires effort.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-17 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
i can't remember, tbh. i thought it was proton who seemed most unstable, really. petrel is just the one with the leeriest smile.

maybe the secret maker is confusing canon and fanon?

[identity profile] pommefield.livejournal.com 2011-09-17 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Petrel made Silver go Blind and suffocated him with Golbat poison in Pokemon Special.
And after that he physically abused him during all the pokemon special HeartGold/SoulSilver arc.



(Anonymous) 2011-09-17 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Not everyone reads the manga and Bulbapedia doesn't mention this on Petrel's page :|

(Anonymous) 2011-09-17 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
D: Spooiiilers.

;_;


I was avoiding them so well for this arch, too.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-17 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Well that...was kind of your own fault

I mean, why were reading a thread where someone straight up asked for spoilers by requesting that someone tell them what happened to Silver

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(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Huh. Okay, yeah, that is a dick move. I'm trying to think of an evil leader who pulled something worse in that canon, but besides Pryce's habit of kidnapping and brainwashing children using legendary birds, my mind's drawing a blank.

Considering this plus his childhood plus the entire Taken For Granite thing, maybe Kusaka just doesn't like Silver?

Not excusing Petrel, of course. Just saying if anything, this makes me feel rather sorry for Silver, not inclined to watch Petrel suffer. But my reactions are kinda weird, so.

[identity profile] blackjackrocket.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. That seems wildly OOC compared to how he was in the games. That seems more of a Proton thing to do (provided Proton really IS the cruelest Rocket and isn't just trying to talk big).

Use of Sugimori art here is sort of misleading since that art=games.

[identity profile] invisible-kris.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 07:38 am (UTC)(link)
My thoughts exactly on both counts. =/

(Anonymous) 2011-09-17 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
okay, went onto bulba. all i can think is the secret maker is referring to petrel pretending to be giovanni- since it's hinted giovanni is silver's daddy.

either that, or they're referring to events from the manga? which is kinda confusing, since that's his game art.

[identity profile] blackjackrocket.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
One--nope.

Two--is this going to be a thing again where anons call me out for anything that even remotely falls into my areas of interest? Because it only makes you guys look like witch hunters, and really that only makes me look good, and I know you guys aren't out to make me look good since you despise me for things that happened over six years ago that didn't even have anything to do with fandom. So for the good of us all, cut it out. You're just dicks with nothing else to do but try and sniff me out in places I'm not.

To save you some time, I didn't submit anything for next week either. Come to think of it, I think the last thing I submitted was about how Chopped made me ship two chefs despite not liking RPF, and that was months ago.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
It's not just for the thing 6 years ago people dislike you - it's because you have a habit of having wank follow you around, and not listening to people when they try to reason with you.

[identity profile] blackjackrocket.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
That's still not a reason to drag it into places that it doesn't belong.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 08:18 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't say it was a good reason, or even a logical one. Just that the first thought towards you tends to be something along the lines of 'Oh god, here's a major wanker/cause of wank!' and they react on that.

Plus, like the anon below said, like it or not you have achieved something of meme-like status so there isn't much you can do but ride it out...just like Dethtoll did when saying 'Hi Dethtoll' was a meme here.

[identity profile] blackjackrocket.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
Still, Dethtoll made more sense since the things would happen here. This is for things that have only vague tangents to do with interests I happen to have, including things that've never led to wank. Like this--I've never been involved in a Team Rocket wankfest.

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(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The differences between this and the Hi Dethtoll meme is that only a handful of people found the Hi Dethtoll meme funny to begin with and that most people around here find it easier to be accepted if they get involved in PC-related arguments as opposed to bandy about memes. The problem BJR is facing at the moment lies in the fact that Pokémon fans either hate her, get pissed off whenever she appears, or adore the bandwagon because it makes them feel accepted (usually the latter), so they consider bashing her to be a "safe" subject because they're under the impression that chances are, a bunch of other people would jump in and support them.

Tl;dr, Dethtoll could outlast his meme because not that many people thought it was funny enough to keep it going to begin with. BJR doesn't have that option because there's a lot of people (in this fandom and sometimes in general, the latter in the case of anyone who brings up Hurricane Katrina) who are too stupid to know she's an old meme.

Although in their defense, the Pokémon fandom doesn't really produce that much meme material. The other BNFs in this fandom are pretty boring in that all they really do is sit around and pretend to be whiny teenagers. If another BNF managed to say something immensely ridiculous that didn't have to do with their website and/or fan entitlement relating to their website, I'm sure we'd forget about BJR and get all over the new shit.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-19 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
You're the one who brought up the incident 6 years ago, this time.

[identity profile] blackjackrocket.livejournal.com 2011-09-19 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Except that you're the ones bringing up ANY wankery by trying to use my name as a punchline. Simply not naming any specific event doesn't make you any less non sequetor.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
You know, despite the fact that I'd rather jam my right hand into molten steel than have a tea party with you, I have to agree that it doesn't make sense to me to bring you up here. It's a lot like saying every bit of Pokémon wank has to do with Serebii. It's wildly mind-numbing and whiny, and it feels like they're really trying hard to be funny because they think you're a universally acceptable target thanks to the number of people who either hate you or magically get pissed off whenever you're brought up in the conversation.

That's really most of what's wrong with this fandom in general. People are more apt to start drama than get along (probably because this fandom has always been like that on a level, so now everyone has this stupidly elitist or otherwise delusional mentality going on on one level or another), which is really fucking hilarious if you think about it because when you get right down to it, most of the canon preaches about teamwork and friendship, am I right? But you can't really tell anyone anything like "grow the fuck up," even if you phrase it ever so politely.

And I know you probably don't care and would probably not even remotely take this as an explanation to anything; I'm just venting at you because this fandom pisses me off so hard sometimes. I could just vent about it on [livejournal.com profile] pokanon, but honestly, that place fucking sucks now. :|

Anyway, the point. The point is, yeah, they're pretty much just mentioning you because you've achieved a meme-like status in this fandom, so they automatically assume that mentioning you has the same effect as posting a lolcat (i.e., that it would get a particular effect, regardless of context or audience). Except they don't realize that you're more along the lines of a Chuck Norris joke in that no one gives a crap and that it's not cool to do it if the topic isn't specifically about you.

[identity profile] blackjackrocket.livejournal.com 2011-09-18 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
Actually that was a far more insightful answer than I expected to get. Thanks, despite the...odd hate-on in the first sentence.

(Anonymous) 2011-09-18 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
You're welcome. I'm actually surprised you managed to get anything out of that tl;dr, so that's cool.

As for the hate-on, yeah, I love weird metaphors and just wanted to establish the fact that I'm one of those people you mentioned on your LJ who don't particularly like you but would like to punch out people who try to cash in on your memes for failing to stfu.

[identity profile] blackjackrocket.livejournal.com 2011-09-19 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it really makes no sense. I see tons of people doing the same things I do and they're met with agreement, or at least not wankery. It's like they picked me to harp on.

A tl;dr that I'm sure could use a few more expletives, 1/2

(Anonymous) 2011-09-20 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
That's a question I've been wondering myself. I've taken an interest in trying to make sense of the BNFs in this fandom (ha, like that'll ever happen), and I've noticed that a lot of the time, the hate-on has a general theme to it. For example, Serebii Joe has always been a dick to anyone who didn't worship the ground he walked on, so it's not really surprising whenever he pops up in wank, only to have it be about some flamewar he got into with WPM, Archaic, or someone else who has the audacity to run a website that hosts information. So, he's sort of a joke, only we don't make fun of Serebii Joe because the majority of us who realize he's a dick are also massively terrified of him. This is also why no one makes fun of Gin, who runs the major Pokémon comms on LJ, incidentally. It's not that we don't have something to say about her and how dramatic she can be; it's just that we're really fucking terrified of her and the people around her. But I'm anon, so I don't really give a shit.

Then you've got the other BNFs. There's Pikabellechu, who... is Pikabellechu, so what else can I really say? Farla everyone harps about, so it's been old by the time anyone started cracking jokes about you. And she gets off to anyone who trash-talks her, so what's the point? Dragonfree's a lot like Farla in terms of how she interacts with people, but no one harps about her because they've got hard-ons about her website. I admit I can't think of anyone else who might have dirt on them. Then there's WPM, and I'm surprised no one played up the wank involving him moving to Japan just to get Pokémon news and how entitled he sounded because that was just hilarious. But that's fandom for you, so moving on. The only other close-to-BNF status I can think of is probably bobandbill, and he's actually like the only sane one in the fandom. The others, as far as I can tell, are either extremely minor that no one knows them outside of their niche or just don't do anything remotely interesting or hilarious.

You, on the other hand. Let me think. A lot of the stuff you did was, yes, pretty damn old, and as far as I can tell from Fandom Wank reports and a quick run-through of your LJ, you've been pretty quiet outside of the occasional dumbass resurrecting old news for lack of something entertaining to say. So I thought the best way to figure out why the hell people are so fixated on you is by actually looking at the past stuff to see what it was that you did and what the context actually was. So, to Fandom Wank I went, and by that, I mean I Googled you and Fandom Wank in the same line and got this page (http://wiki.fandomwank.com/index.php/Blackjackrocket). I didn't read through the threads yet because, frankly, they're more tl;dr than this comment, but I get the feeling the only reason why they're on you and not anyone else is because you're the only BNF who's pissed off the PC Brigade.

I mean, if you think about it, in this fandom, you've got:

A. Fans who actually do make explicitly sexist, racist, or whatever comments but are so far from being noteworthy in any capacity that no one cares.
B. BNFs who get involved in wank by doing hilariously ridiculous things related directly to the fandom, not to SJ issues.
C. BNFs who terrify the fuck out of us more than you do.

Then there's you, who not only got involved in SJ-related wank (not just the hurricane but also seems like rape issues and I have no idea what that underage wank is going on about, even after reading the thread) but also did it outside of the Pokémon fandom (where thar be sharks) and as a BNF within the Pokémon fandom. And I know that last statement makes no sense, but what I'm trying to say is basically, you're a two-fer. People outside of fandom love the SJ stuff, and people within the fandom love the fact that people outside of fandom love to talk about you because of the SJ stuff.

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