[ SECRET POST #1870 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1870 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 67 secrets from Secret Submission Post #267.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

02. http://i.imgur.com/f2IrF.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sorry about what you had to go through and all, and I agree that Eponine is awesome as are her songs but...

You do realize that A Little Fail of Rain is not about Marius realizing his romantic feelings for Eponine right? He uh, never falls in love with her in the musical. And it's cool if you ship it and all, but that's... not what happens in the canon story. She's happy that she has his affection as she passes, and she can die in peace, but he's not fallen in love with her.

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

You should not hurt yourself so that other people will love you. I cannot begin to list how many ways this is unhealthy.

[rosehiptea.livejournal.com]

I was thinking the same thing.

Also, I hate to preach, but if he's that opposed to dating a bisexual woman ... well, that's not good, is what I'm saying.

OP, it's easy for me to sit here and say you could do better but it sounds like you could. I hope you feel better about all this soon.

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

Whether or not the guy's good enough, I'm not sure the OP's in any shape for a relationship. There's love and then there's...then there's this. This is not a good thing.

[rosehiptea.livejournal.com]

I guess "good enough" wasn't really great phrasing on my part. But if that attitude is real it does suck IMO. But anyway, yeah, the OPs state of mind is more relevant.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, assumptions about friends happens all the time. I mean, I'm sure everyone has that friend that if asked, they'd say "me date him/her? LOL XD!" even if they love them. So if he has her in the friendzone because he's never considered dating a girl like her, that really sucks, but it may not be intentional. Of course, it may, which means she ought to seek out someone who can think of her "that way".

[rosehiptea.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it's hard to tell from this what he actually thinks, and not wanting to date someone even though you care about them isn't inherently negative.

Still, either way she ought to seek out someone who does want to date her rather than wish he did... easy for me to say though.

[sweeneytodd.livejournal.com]

Unrequited love? Been there. Done that. Didn't even stop and look at the t-shirts. Most of the time, the guy isn't what you're really looking for anyways. Easier said than done, but once you're over it, it's so freaking liberating.

[(Anonymous)]

I think this is a repeat.

[alizara.livejournal.com]

Would it help to know that in the book he barely felt anything at her death, and in fact tore Cossette's letter out of her hands to read it almost before she was dead? The musical made so much more out of that than there actually was.

[azelmaroark.livejournal.com]

Totally what I was thinking, but given how distressed OP seemed I didn't want to point it out because I thought it might make it worse. IA that it's a stretch to say that even musical!Marius had romantic feelings for Eponine, but hey, if that makes OP feel better I say go on thinking it. I do remember my fourteen-year-old self being pissed off at Marius for how callous he was in the book when she died, though, especially after I'd seen the musical first.

[countess-k.livejournal.com]

I was thinking the same thing. I liked Eponine way more than Cossette in the book simply because she was more aware of what was going on in her country and was part of a movement to change it. Cossette in the book seemed too much like a clueless princess. That's why I was annoyed at Marius' behavior because to me it felt like he chose looks over courage.

[nirejseki.livejournal.com]

...what sequel? o_O???

I mean, Eponine in the book didn't have any interest in what went on around her - she was a thief, a prostitute, and mostly hung around Marius because she was obsessed with him. She had no interest in Enjolras' movement short of luring Marius there to die with her in a very "If I can't have him no one will!" - and Marius really wasn't there for the "movement" either, he just wanted to commit woeful-Romeoesque-suicide-by-barricade - and Cosette never cared about the whole thing. She was so naive that she didn't understand why Marius was uncomfortable taking Valjean's money, because no one felt that she ought to be told why there was ever a complication. The only people involved in the movement were Les Amis, and that's why the scene of their death is so poignant. I can see caring about Eponine's death as part of Marius' storyline, or even her own, but as part of the ABC one...? *deeply confused*

(I'm really sincerely confused, actually, not trying to make fun or anything - please explain! Especially about a sequel...)

[sistermagpie.livejournal.com]

Like others said, the musical just has him being kind to her because she's dying and he had affection for her. He doesn't realize he's in love with her.

In the book he barely notices that she's dying. I think she even has to basically say, "Hey, I'm dying down here, Marius."

You don't want anybody to be your Marius unless you're Cosette.

[roguebelle.livejournal.com]

Oh, honey.

No one you have to hurt yourself to get attention from is worth it.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe I saw a different version, but there's a part where she very bitterly goes, "Little does he know, little does he care!"

So, yes, she is kind of bitter, IMO. Also, he didn't love her. She was a friend, yes, but that was it. And he tried to get her to safety, only for her to get killed. So, yes, he tried to comfort her.

[intrigueing.livejournal.com]

I'm so sorry OP :( I've dealt with unrequited love too and it's probably the most painful thing I've ever experienced, apart from loved ones dying.

"On My Own" is one of my favorite songs in the universe too. You have good taste.

[(Anonymous)]

You do realize that hurting yourself for attention is an incredibly messed up and to put your unrequited crush through this is so freaking selfish. This is coming from someone that had a stalker for two years that threatened to kill himself if I didn't love him. Please go see someone that can help you.

[sweeneytodd.livejournal.com]

Aw...I like Eponine. I've outgrown the character now, but I can see why you would relate to her. Please don't hurt yourself for this guy though especially if he doesn't respect your sexuality. You'll outgrow him and you'll meet several other men that will be even better. Take some time to rediscover yourself. Make new friends. Get involved in different projects in hobbies. Don't let this ONE GUY destroy your self-esteem. Trust me on this one. It'll fuck your life so hard, and when you realize he wasn't worth it, you'll kick yourself in the face for it. Good luck. :)

[murderershair.livejournal.com]

OP, I understand where you're coming from, but please, don't do anything rash. You'll feel so much better if you find something else to put your focus on, even temporarily, and remember that if he doesn't feel the same way about you it is not his fault.

[(Anonymous)]

Only in fiction do people realise they love someone when they get hurt. In real life he'd think you were crazy and like you less, even as a friend. People don't fall in love with crazy desperation. So even if you feel it, don't show it. Act like someone he could fall in love with. Then, even if he doesn't, you'll have lost nothing by the time this feels easier for you, and possibly gained something.

[(Anonymous)]

You sound young. Look at you life! Look at your choices! You're 14 and you're an idiot.

[nirejseki.livejournal.com]

This secret is the reason that people like Marius don't like people like Eponine, even if we are going musical-verse and not book-verse (where, given, Marius is a complete ass to Eponine and starts swooning over Cosette's letter happily while she just dies. She's mostly happy that she's dying making him happy, not that there's any returned affection). Even if she's not the batshit crazy stalker that she is in the book - deliberately luring him to a situation where he might die b/c she doesn't want him to get with anyone else much? - she's still really creepy. It's not his fault he doesn't like her, and she can't - no one can - force someone to be in love with them, it leads to bad, bad things.

Do NOT hurt yourself, because he'll only think you're a stalker and you'll lose the friendship as well. I mean, would you like someone you didn't like - not your Marius-crush in disguise, someone you REALLY didn't like, or even a friend you don't like in a romantic way - to blackmail you into a relationship because you're afraid they'll go through with their threats of hurting themselves just to get their notice? How would you feel if you were the Cosette of the relationship - say you did miraculously get with this Marius-crush of yours at long last, and then some NEW person starts going "OMG I will hurt myself just to get his attention!"? Seriously, just try to think at this from different POVs and you'll realize how very, very bad this idea of yours is.