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[ SECRET POST #1895 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1895 ⌋

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Lol, you're right. Fandom is just really heterophobic, isn't it?

not ALL fandoms......just some.

No it isn't, because heterophobia is not a legitimate issue.

Except for the fact it is. And it's statements like that which make me believe it is even more so.

No, it isn't. Negativity against heterosexuality in niche corners of the internet isn't even remotely comparable to the shit, intentional and otherwise, that we queers have to put up with all the time in our day to day lives. It's disingenuous and quite frankly offensive to call it "heterophobia" and thereby imply that it is.

^^^ this.

+1

See also, the fact that "straight-bashing" isn't something heterosexuals have to worry about.

While they might not need to worry about it (unless you're on say, Tumblr), that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.

Please, tell me you just didn't compare being physically attacked on the streets, discriminated against, and being fired off your job in RL with a flame war in Tumbler, and that it was a bad attempt at a joke.

Seriously, it's not the same. There's no such thing as heterophobia. And being told 'you're a bigot because you don't like slash' is rude, yes, but it doesn't belong in the same galaxy as the very real consequences of homophobia.

I didn't compare it. Please read what I actually wrote:

Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.
Someone having it far worse doesn't remotely negate another problem.

And of course they're equally important in the 'we've got to solve this' scale.

Maybe you weren't meaning to compare the two, and that's why I asked you to clarify, but it really sounds like you're saying that there's such a thing as straight bashing, and that, while less serious as gay bashing, it's a problem to be fought.

I never compared them, I stated that it is also a problem, because, LE GASP, it does also happen. Maybe not on the same scale, but you said it doesn't exist, and you're flat wrong.

Oh look at that (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterophobia), it even has a wiki page!

So does Reverse Racism. And mysandrism.

And a few others where the majority suddenly feels threatened because one minority is asking for equality. Doesn't make them a problem.

not a problem to you ≠ not a problem

. . . Did you really just cite Wikipedia?

Massive fail, right there.

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kartos.livejournal.com - 2012-03-12 18:55 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) - 2012-03-14 01:34 (UTC) - Expand

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kartos.livejournal.com - 2012-03-14 01:49 (UTC) - Expand

Tumblr? You're comparing people being beaten to death to "worrying" about something on TUMBLR?

What. The. Actual. FUCK!?

jesus christ is everyone on F!S too stupid to actually read?

Let's review. My comment was about how straight people (unlike LGBT people) don't have to worry about being physically attacked for their orientation. Your response was:

While they might not need to worry about it (unless you're on say, Tumblr), that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

You're comparing gay people getting beaten (sometimes to death) to straight people getting called homophobes on Tumblr. One of these things is not like the other.

roflmao wow, you're just too stupid (and butthurt) for words.

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kartos.livejournal.com - 2012-03-19 20:38 (UTC) - Expand

What the comment was saying was that Heterophobia does exist and is more prevalent on Tumblr which is full of slashy fangirls. Fandom is different from the real world. In the real world, het is all over the place. No one bashes it. Go into fandom and it's all slash where het is the minority, hated and scarce. Am I the only one that actually read this comment?

I agree that het is a minority, often hated and scarce. Femslash is scarce too, not hated (I say this because I've never seen that), but ignored.

Sometimes I wonder if it's less heterophobia and more lack of interest in relationships that involve women.

So much of fandom is about male/male relationships, which is great in a way because it's supporting homosexuality and it's still hard to be homosexual out in the real world. I like that part about fandom.

Yet homosexuality isn't just about men, so it's not just supporting/protecting the homosexuals because there's little to no mention of women and women are also gay.

There's a really tiny amount of fic about bisexuals too. I am offtopic and need my own secret, clearly.

I disagree. My reason for doing so is having witnessed, on multiple and separate occasions, straight men in my hometown having the living daylights kicked out of them by a group of gay men, for no other reason than the victim was straight.

I'm aware this doesn't happen in the majority, and it's usually, in fact, the other way around.
I'm 100% supportive of LGBT rights, however, I also find it offensive when some (not all) gay people act as if they're the only people in the world who can, or indeed are, discriminated against. Because that's far, far from the truth.

I'd say misogynistic more than heterophobic. Because all the hate usually goes towards the female part of the het pairs, or any female character really.

This! Definitely this.

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