[ SECRET POST #1925 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1925 ⌋

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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat (same text, different image) ].
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Comments

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[ascend.livejournal.com]

i'm sure it has but i am guesstimating that the majority of the people who stanned their fandom to this girl arent those kinds of people, given that it's not a super common thing, whereas almost everyone in any given religion is going to hold said religion above everything else in their lives

i see your point though, maybe the op could just like mention that to her friend

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[(Anonymous)]

>almost everyone in any given religion is going to hold said religion above everything else in their lives

um

sorry but that's hilarious. ALMOST EVERYONE seriously really... dude. duuude. are you from a deeply religious area and oh god do you really believe that? look, I know that religious people are supposed to do that and that's ideal that religion aspires to, but the number of real people who think that way in practice.....

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[ascend.livejournal.com]

i'm not religious

at the end of the day the vast majority of religious people, regardless of their ~hypocritical sin~ or w/e you're insinuating, would not hesitate to pick their god over everything else in their life

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[(Anonymous)]

i didn't ask if you were religious, i asked if you lived in a sea of true believers because dude. most religious people are not like that at all. they're supposed to be, and the religion encourages them to be, but dude. no.

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[ascend.livejournal.com]

you asked if i believed that and i was just assuming you were trying to ask me if i was religious so you could laugh in my face or w/e

i understand that a lot of religious people are hypocrites, especially conservative ones. but once again, if you gave those people a strict choice, they'd pick god/jesus/etc over sex/drugs/being assholes/etc. they may not always act christlike as they should but that doesn't conflict with what they place above all else when it comes down to it

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[(Anonymous)]

i was asking if you believed what you said, not if you were religious, my bad.

but you didn't say they'd pick god over sex though. you said MOST RELIGIOUS PEOPLE would pick god over EVERYTHING ELSE IN THEIR LIVES. and that means family, loved ones, principles, etc etc. religion goes far, but not that far and especially not for MOST RELIGIOUS PEOPLE dude wtf

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[ascend.livejournal.com]

ok if god came down RIGHT NOW and was like what up yall i want you to come with me and leave all this shit behind

theyre gonna pick god i'm js

like do you understand what religion is and why people have it like the whole eternal salvation having a place next to god's throne etc because that is ETERNITY vs temporary worldly shit that are talking about

above all, the religious believe/understand that god is wholly good/just and stuff so he would always be the best choice, he's not gonna be like p.s. fuck your family lol

so really by picking their god theyre picking everything they could ever want or need, so like um yeah i totally believe the vast majority of religious people would pick god over this earth

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[(Anonymous)]

that doesn't fly. you're changing the scenario now by having god coming down in person and being like whaddup homies and leaving the entire original argument behind. if god proved himself to be real, of course everyone would go because it would cease to be a matter of faith or religion at all and be a matter of fact. that's not what we're talking about though, and currently religious people do not know for a fact that this will happen, and something like that happening would change the entire concept of "religion" to begin with, invalidating the entire argument

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[ascend.livejournal.com]

does it make a difference? not to the religious who already believe he's real, i mean come on lmao

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[(Anonymous)]

it does, actually. religion is built around faith, which is defined as belief in something you don't know for sure. christian people don't know, but they believe and have faith, thats the whole point. think of the story of the town that's praying for rain, and brings their objects of faith, and the little child who brings an umbrella.

if god comes down and proves he's real and is all sup bros, that changes everything about faith

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[ascend.livejournal.com]

maybe it changes everything about faith, but it changes nothing about whether or not religious people believe in him. if they believe in him either way then the scenario still stands but ok for your sake just change the act of god physically coming down to god appearing in a ~vision

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[(Anonymous)]

"he's not gonna be like p.s. fuck your family lol"

Er, there are instances in the Bible of God doing exactly this...

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[ascend.livejournal.com]

not without actual reason

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[(Anonymous)]

Does making bets with the devil count as an actual reason?

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[ascend.livejournal.com]

if they gave themselves to lucifer then lol sucks for them buuut

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[(Anonymous)]

DA

Job's torture was pretty fucking unnecessary.

I've also always been really suspicious about God hardening Pharaoh's heart to fuck up Moses's mission to free his people THAT GOD GAVE HIM TO ACCOMPLISH- I mean, did God want to save his chosen people or didn't he?

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[ascend.livejournal.com]

lol it always amuses me when people try to understand god and get all pissed when they think smth he did was ~out of line

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[(Anonymous)]

In the old testament a LOT of people get punished due to the actions of someone else.

Hell, it was Passover last Friday and part of the Seder explicitly states that it was part of God's plan that the Jewish people would dwell in Egypt and be enslaved for 400 years before being freed. Sucks to be someone born part way through those 400 years.

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[hooves.livejournal.com]

If you claim to be religious, but you don't hold your gods/God above other things, then you're not really a believer at all, so this doesn't apply.

So I'd say that ALL religious people look at it like God > Everything Else.

Anyone who doesn't is probably not actually a religious person, just someone claiming to be.

Just like that whole, "You can go to church every Sunday but that doesn't make you a Christian" thing. Just saying you're religious doesn't mean you are.

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[(Anonymous)]

wait what.

if more religious people were like how you say they are, we wouldn't be having arguments over basic rights. It is very, very, very common for religious (I'm thinking of Christianity mostly, not too sure about other religions) people to put their religious beliefs over common sense and respect for others.

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[(Anonymous)]

yes. true. they didn't say common sense and respect for others though. they said everything else in their lives.

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[kikkyo.livejournal.com]

... might surprise you, actually. My religious beliefs tend to be very important to me.

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[(Anonymous)]

they didn't say you. they said almost everyone. can you say the same of almost every religious person you know?

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[kikkyo.livejournal.com]

Yes, but I am religious, and from what I'm seeing in the comments to this secret, there's a number of people who have the same opinion about this as I do.

Religious people in general tend to hold their religions in high regards. I don't try to pressure anyone into accepting my beliefs if they're not interested but for me, Darth Vader =/= Jesus.

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[(Anonymous)]

You are not everyone.