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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-04-10 06:36 pm

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-10 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Abortion is only a "health matter" if the pregnancy is threatening your life. "Boohoo, I don't wanna be pregnant," is not "I could drop dead if this thing isn't sucked out" nor is it something I feel compelled to contribute to. Do we know that's OP's reasoning? No, but neither did the people who didn't know they were supporting an abortion.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
da

So if some hypothetical woman was raped and got pregnant, but was in no physical danger from the pregnancy, would you say she should keep it?

If a woman wants an abortion, she should be allowed it. Period. End of discussion.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't say she shouldn't be allowed to have it. You jumped to that conclusion all on your own. I'm saying that I'm sick of people justifying abortions by calling them "health matters" when really, they just don't want to be pregnant. Pregnant is not synonymous with unhealthy.

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[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Pregnancy - even a healthy one - can actually permanently damage your body.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
eat a dick. pregnancy can lead to a lot of insanely dangerous health complications, and yes, even in this day and age, women die in the delivery room.

pregnancy isn't synonymous with unhealthy, but it is a health condition, and if you're worried enough about your health to get an abortion, it's a "health matter".

besides, you self-righteous shit-eating smegma-smeared piece of feces, most women don't get an abortion because they "don't want to be pregnant". it's because they don't want a baby. what part of that is hard for you to fucking understand? if OP couldn't afford an abortion without lying to get donations, why do you think she'd be able to maintain a damn baby? who was going to adopt the kid if she carried it (and took on tens of thousands of dollars in hospital bills)? you? no, i doubt it.

i have literally never met a pro-lifer who adopted, fostered, or even donated to organizations for children who are stuck in the system. sew your own cunt/cock shut and keep your fucking opinions out of other peoples' health concerns.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
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Aren't you an angry little anon!

I'm rather undecided about the whole thing, leaning towards pro-life and I have supported charities to help single mothers. Thanks though!

What have you done to support women who choose to have a baby in tough times?

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
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i have literally never met a pro-lifer who adopted, fostered, or even donated to organizations for children who are stuck in the system.
Well, any respect I might have had for your argument is gone. Get out more. See the real world, not the one the internet tries to portray.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I have met *several* prolifers who have adopted / fostered, including my own sister-in-law.

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[identity profile] marshwiggledyke.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Abortion is a health matter because having unwanted babies affects your entire life and your health.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Not all the time. Adoption and surrendering your child exists.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
and as fucking usual pro-choicers don't give a fuck about the child once it's born. what a surprise.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
isn't it pro-lifers who don't give a fuck once the kid is born? sure, they'll do everything they can to get you to pop that sucker out, but if you need aid/support after that? lol see ya

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Then don't have full-on penetrative sex with a male? It boggles my mind that anyone that vehemently opposed or poorly prepared for having babies would do so voluntarily.

Yes, I know, non-consensual situations exist and so do genuine unforseseen health emergencies, thus why abortion needs to be a thing. But seriously? If babies are out of the question, crossing one's legs makes so much more sense than relying on birth control that's known to be less than perfect and/or having some horrible surgical procedure to kill the kid after the fact.

I'm sure I'll get slammed for saying so, since it's fashionable these days to assume that the right to do whatever we feel like trumps any responsibility we bear for the consequences, but I'm sorry, it's just a biological fact: no sex, no pregnancy, no abortion, no problem.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Because no woman ever gets pregnant due to rape, right? That slut just should have kept her knees together.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
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Yeah, this is kind of my point of view on this... I'm avoiding sex with a man because I know I'm not ready for a baby or even a pregnancy. It's not because I'm repressed or a prude (well, maybe a bit of a prude, but not that much), it's because the consequences are not worth it.

If people want to have sex, that's their choice, but they need to be able to deal with the consequences. Expecting to have consequence free sex is irresponsible at best and delusional and over-entitled at worse.

It's like having a pet: great for you if you have a pet, but you need to have some emergency funds set aside for it. If not, it's your right to have a pet and I'm not taking that away from you, but you shouldn't.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
so women can only have good victim abortions not slut abortions, I see

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
No. I have a right to have sex with an adult connecting partner. This is in no way related by my right not to have my body used by another person without my permission and I have the right to stop people from using it - hence no forced organ/blood donation.

Since my body cannot be used by another person, my body cannot be used by a fetus without my permission either and I have the right to stop the fetus from using my body.

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[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Because *shock horror* some women actually much prefer penetrative sex over anything else, and don't want to wait until they are post-menopausal to perform their favourite sexual activity, just because there are people out there who oppose contraception or abortions - even though have zero moral qualms about it themselves..

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
I would honestly kill myself before giving birth to a child. And if I was forced to give birth? I would probably try to kill that baby, and then kill myself. "I could drop dead if this thing isn't sucked out" is true for me.

Just my two cents.

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[identity profile] kallanda-lee.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
If I couldn't get an abortion, I'd try to self-abort of die trying.

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[identity profile] marshwiggledyke.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
This. I don't think a lot of people understand this about the abortion debate. It's not an ideal decision, but the ability to have abortions legally and safely puts the pregnant woman at a LOT less risk than the alternative. *cough* coathangers/self-injury/illegal backstreet operations *cough*

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
God, people in my family are old enough to remember what it was like before you could get abortions where we live. Jesus Christ the stuff people did to either get illegal abortions or to self-abort is utterly terrifying. My aunt knew someone who DID die trying to self-abort because she hadn't been able to find someone who'd provide it illegally.

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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Then you're in serious need of professional help, Anon. That's just fucked up.

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[identity profile] amethyst-rei.livejournal.com 2012-04-11 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
And if I was forced to give birth? I would probably try to kill that baby, and then kill myself.

That's fucking MURDER. You already fucking had the kid, give it up to adoption, you idiot.

And anyone who fucking agrees is insane and in serious need of professional help. Aborting a fetus is one thing, KILLING A BABY POSTPARTUM IS ENTIRELY FUCKING DIFFERENT.


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(Anonymous) 2012-04-11 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Jesus, seriously. I definitely would NOT want to have a child either so I get that, but drop the thing off at a firestation (what's it called? Safe haven law? something like that) or something, holy shit.