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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-17 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #1962 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1962 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Ferris Bueller's Day Off]


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03.
[Community]


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04.
[Big Time Rush]


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05.
[Avengers]


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06.
[The Decemberists]


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[Tim Minchin]


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08.
[The Lizzie Bennet Diaries]


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[Community]


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[The Hunger Games]


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11.
[Nell: The Day Before]


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[Devil Survivor]


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13.
[Homeland]


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[Pippin]


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15.
[Portal 2 & Left 4 Dead]


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[The Avengers, 30 Rock, Psych]


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[FFX]


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[Mad Men]


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[Legend of Korra]


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[Faust: Love of the Damned]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 020 secrets from Secret Submission Post #280.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] johnnyabatti.livejournal.com 2012-05-17 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I still can't understand how anyone thought they made her awesome. I remember watching The Avengers like "ho man, the hate this bitch is gonna get is gonna be so good" but nope.

I liked her in the cartoons though. I just think Scarlette fucked her.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-17 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
And I can't understand how anyone can think they didn't make her awesome. Even the OP agrees that she was handled well.

[identity profile] johnnyabatti.livejournal.com 2012-05-17 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
How come though? I honestly need to know because I'm tired of hating the hot bitch.

[identity profile] fauxkaren.livejournal.com 2012-05-17 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I like that she DIDN'T need ~super powers~ to be an effective fighter. She also was given some character depth and a narrative arc beyond just being a badass and sexy woman. She was shown to be clever and manipulative, but she also had a heart.

[identity profile] curseangel.livejournal.com 2012-05-17 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

ALSO she wasn't just there to be The Token Female and flirt with / be flirted with by every male character (I was so, so, so glad to see that). While there was some romantic subtext (and text) between her and Hawkeye, it wasn't done in a way that invalidated her prior characterization, and it was all very clearly on her terms. I loved that.

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[identity profile] writerserenyty.livejournal.com 2012-05-17 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed; IMO Black Widow was pretty much the most badass one because she didn't have crazy powers or gadgets but was just as useful to the team as anyone was.

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[personal profile] have_no_mercy 2012-05-17 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Natasha is a hell of a lot more watchable than Scarlett herself. I was watching an interview with the cast the other day and I couldn't stop wishing she'd just shut up.

[identity profile] johnnyabatti.livejournal.com 2012-05-17 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Holy shit, you have no idea how happy it just made me that you commented. I remember the good old SWS days. Glad to see the account is still active lol. You and I have played together many times years ago. Just never "officially", I'd just end up tagging your posts with my characters cause I LOVE how you play Tess.
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[personal profile] have_no_mercy 2012-05-17 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. Thank you. That just made me happy. :) Now I'm very curious who you played!

[identity profile] johnnyabatti.livejournal.com 2012-05-17 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my gosh. Everyone and their mother.

I played Kara (trueblue_sg) and Lois (therightlane) for a bit there. Pepper Potts (alfredonheels) as well. So many others that aren't DC/Marvel either. Like George Lass and Daisy Adair from Dead Like Me if you've heard of it.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-17 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
i hope you're referring to scarlett's acting over bw's characterization, because damn if they didn't do everything to make her stand out amongst a super-powered cast of who are essentially dudebros.

i don't enjoy scarlett's acting but i enjoy her portrayal of black widow, i liked her tough exterior and the little bit of fear we saw upon her being trapped with Bruce hulking out.

[identity profile] johnnyabatti.livejournal.com 2012-05-17 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
because damn if they didn't do everything to make her stand out amongst a super-powered cast of who are essentially dudebros

There it is, I get it now. Yeah, they did that right, didn't they? I guess her shitty acting distracted me lol

(Anonymous) 2012-05-18 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Can she even make more than one facial expression?

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-18 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Is it bad that the main reason I wanted to see the movie was for the superpowered dudebros? Tony Stark's shenanigans are always entertaining.

I loved Black Widow, though, even though I usually don't like Scarlett Johansson.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-17 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I just think Scarlette fucked her.

How? What do you think should have been done differently (as far as casting, acting, or both)?

[identity profile] johnnyabatti.livejournal.com 2012-05-17 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Her acting truly is awful. I never agreed with that popular opinion until this movie (then again, I've never seen her in anything other than Home Alone LOL). She just focused on dramatic facial expressions. There was no way in hell I was to believe she was an amazing spy of some sorts. She was awful. And a Russian accent would have been nice.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-17 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked her acting but ymmv I guess. I'm also not a huge movie-goer so I'm not good at judging that sort of thing
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-05-17 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that she's a horrible actress, but the writing for her character was so good I was able to overlook that I guess IDK

(Anonymous) 2012-05-18 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Why should she have a Russian accent? She says so herself in the movie that she's not Russian anymore.

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[identity profile] jazzypom.livejournal.com 2012-05-18 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, thank you! Someone agrees!

She just focused on dramatic facial expressions. There was no way in hell I was to believe she was an amazing spy of some sorts. She was awful. And a Russian accent would have been nice.

This. The thing with Ms Johnasson, is that the more famous she gets, her acting skills deteriorate (yeah, people are going to harp on Golden Globe and Tony noms and I'll tell you about star power versus talent and how in lots of cases, the twain rarely meet).

I would have been happy with even a vaguely European accent (hard to describe, but it's there) and Scar Jo couldn't even be bothered. She was so American, and just... Scar Jo in a costume. She had such a good role and Vicky Christina Barcelona'd it.

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[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2012-05-17 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Because she out-mindfucked the God of Lies, would be a good place to start.

[identity profile] fauxkaren.livejournal.com 2012-05-17 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
That was such a brilliant scene. I love the way she was able to use misconceptions that Loki had about her because she was a woman in order to out-smart him.

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2012-05-17 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of people got upset over the mewling quim line, but I personally felt it emphasized the fact that she was playing up to Loki's expectations and then slapping him in the face with them.

What Hulk did to him physically, Black Widow did to him tactically. And given that his entire back is screwing with people's heads, that's far far worse.

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[identity profile] deadtree.livejournal.com 2012-05-18 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
exactly. She out-Loki'd Loki. Your argument is invalid.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-20 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
I watched the movie 3 times now and still can't see it. What exactly did she find out that couldn't be figured out by using some common sense? Or are we supposed to work under the assumption that all the other agents of the S.H.E.I.L.D are just that stupid?