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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-07-29 03:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #2035 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-07-29 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm, for some reason I read this as "acceptable in the mainstream". I feel like if I drew a recognizable character, RL people who aren't in fandom would be like "Oh cool, a picture of ___". But if I tried to explain fanfiction it would be awkward and they wouldn't understand it, or they'd be creeped out. So if that's what OP meant then I kind of agree, even though I personally don't really care what my RL acquaintances think of fic.

(Anonymous) 2012-07-29 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, this. I was pretty confused at first but this makes sense.

There's a fanartist category at the Hugos, for example, and I can't imagine they'll ever have one for fanfic.

(Anonymous) 2012-08-01 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
The 'fanartist' category at the Hugos has absolutely nothing to do with 'fanart' as is being discussed here. Hugo 'fanart' refers to an artist that is a fan, or has contributed to fanzines, or who does not make a 'substantial portion' of their income from their art (ie, is not a 'pro')(which is also totally arbitrary and ridiculous, as very few 'working artists,' even Big Names, can actually make a real living off their art nowadays - thank you, 'art should be free!' culture).

Any actual 'fanartist' as being discussed here would likely be ineligible, as there are few pieces of 'fanart' actually published, for reasons detailed elsewhere in this thread (primarily copyright).

Basically, there are two kinds of fandom: new (characterized by Tumblr, kinkmemes, and a greater percentage of 'younger' fen) and old (characterized by zines [which still exist!], smaller general 'genre' conventions, generally older or lit/acafen, and longer livejournal posts), and while there's crossover, the Hugos come from and represent the old school more than anything else.

See also: their category for 'fan writing,' which has nothing to do with fanfic, more's the pity.

-- Anon who works in the genre publishing industry as an art director, has voted in the Hugos, read the Hugo rules for fanart upon discovering the category and been appropriately befuddled, and is actively involved in both 'sides' of fandom. [/pointless bonafides]

(Anonymous) 2012-07-29 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair enough. Though this usually only works as long as you don't show anyone your slash or really any other drawings of non-canon pairings, then they're either really confused or really creeped out. Mostly both.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2012-07-29 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I read it that way too.

There's something more personal about fanfiction I guess. There's the interpretation of characters that may or may not mesh with the reader, whether it's seen as wish-fulfillment, and the misleading idea that it's how the writer had hoped the source material had been. And it's not even a new concept, writing fic, considering it's basically what's done with ongoing series and remakes and whatever.