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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-21 06:48 pm

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree, but that is the problem with stage productions. They can be really powerful...but only if you see them in person. It's really difficult to capture that feeling, and in that respect, I don't find the movie all that bad. Not great, but okay.

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Stage productions of Sweeney Todd *rule*.

[personal profile] unicornherds 2012-09-21 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked the version with Angela Lansbury. The movie kind of bored me.

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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-09-21 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't that how it is with most plays? They're way better on stage?*

Don't get me wrong, you can have a good movie adaptation and you can have a sucky play performance. But the movie will still always be an adaptation. The original story will always have been written for the stage. Therefore, it makes sense for it to generally be better in the medium it was written for.

*I'm saying this as someone who actually liked that movie and a lot of movie adaptations.
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(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Get new friends? I mean, I thought the movie was okay (the stage production blows it out of the water, of course, but it had somethings going for it), but if they'd hate you for having a different opinion they sound like asses.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Angela Lansbury or nothing.

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[personal profile] visp 2012-09-21 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Stage and movie are very different - nothing wrong with preferring one over the other. Besides, Tim Burton always makes his dark stuff a little quirky and cute - which sorta takes away from the scary.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-21 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry that your friends have terrible taste.

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-22 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
First of all: it's...good to proof-read. "Better it?"

Second of all: fuck 'em. When a stage production precedes a silver screen adaptation, it's typically superior, because it's what the material was intended for. There's nothing wrong with your preference.

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[personal profile] anna_sinistra 2012-09-22 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I suggest the Patti Lupone and George Hearn version, their A Little Priest is my favourite.

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[personal profile] honestys_easy 2012-09-22 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
I thought it was the consensus among non-Burton fanatics that most stage productions are head and shoulders above the film. I saw the John Doyle production in London (the minimalist set, the actors also playing the orchestral score) and I was so incredibly entranced and terrified. YMMV certainly on which production you see, but I thought everyone agreed that they're all better than the film.

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-22 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
I almost always like stage performances better (especially in person). I always assumed this was a pretty normal ideal.

But for a lot of soundtracks, I often like the movie's versions best, since sometimes the acting gets in the way of the music (In a totally wonderful way). The exception being Phantom of the Opera. Though, my roommate likes even that movie soundtrack best.

That said, I still liked this movie. But it wasn't horrifying at all. Too much emphasis on perfection in something that should be deliciously messy.
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[personal profile] yeahscience 2012-09-22 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
You're, like, objectively correct on this one though, OP. The movie sucked and both stagings of the show I've seen were amazing (although Patti Lupone and George Hearn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else tbh).
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[personal profile] fearlessfirefly 2012-09-22 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, who is that playing Sweeney (the stage version, of course)? I must be losing my mind because he looks an awful lot like Alfie Boe.

In relation to the secret itself, I'll always prefer George Hearn over Johnny Depp, so I totally feel you, OP. Also, I know there's a production of Sweeney Todd that has Neil Patrick Harris as Toby, which is also available on DVD (with Hearn and Patti LuPone, iirc). Just throwing that out there in case some NPH fans didn't know ♥

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(Anonymous) 2012-09-22 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
I think the movie leaned too much on look, to the point where that's pretty much what there is to go see it for. And it's all lovely, gothy imagery, but man, I just can't see the characters looking that stylish. It doesn't work for me. I don't buy that this is a world where people just dress like that normally, when they aren't the sort to put effort into looking spooky. It's not actually scary if they look like they look that way on purpose. And even if she's meant to be a horrible cook, why is Lovette wearing fishnets on her hands while baking?

I have a lot of thoughts on this movie, apparently. It's not bad, but the woodenness and flat singing stand out more when the visuals are what they are.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-22 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
Whoa, where are you? I thought it was accepted that the movie was kinda ... not good in places ... or overall ... and Tim Burton is kinda not the bestest thing ever anymore ... and my friends are all pissed at him for cutting out certain songs ... and they all swear by the stage show ... I am so happy that I got to see the off-Broadway tour!

Are you in high school or something? If so, don't worry about it, once you hit college and get some theater friends, opinions will take a 180.

(Anonymous) 2012-09-22 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
I just can't be that scared if it's Johnny Depp in funny make-up because... well, it's Johnny Depp in funny make-up. So many of his high profile roles follow this pattern and they tend to be hammy, over the top characters. Not at all scary.
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[personal profile] rbhudson 2012-09-22 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
The film is decent but the stage productions have always been better. And I agree, they're way scarier. Maybe it's the prospect of Sweeney coming out in the audience and giving you a shave lol
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[personal profile] helplessdancer 2012-09-22 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
You need to get friends with better taste if they think Burton's version is superior to the current London production.
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[personal profile] oroburos69 2012-09-22 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
I saw a community theatre version performed in an old church where they couldn't afford any props but the chair (invisible pies for the win!), and the kid was a thirty year-old man, and it was miles above the Burton version. That's because it was quite well done, and not because the Burton version was bad, but still.
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[personal profile] ginainthekingsroad 2012-09-22 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
You need to get some better friends. Yes, it's harder to share that experience with your friends who weren't at that experience. (Like I wish the rest of you could have seen the original Broadway cast of Grey Gardens because it was amazing. Or that my family had seen the original Oregon Shakespeare Festival cast of Bill Cain's Equivocation, not the cast we saw a while later in LA.) But in any case, Sweeney Todd is a work of theatre and in my opinion it is at its best when seen as a live performance.

Also the Burton movie is pretty shit. Just my opinion tho.
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[identity profile] sensualcoco.livejournal.com 2012-09-22 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
ia, i liked it so much better when i saw it on stage

(Anonymous) 2012-09-22 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
While I did glean some enjoyment from the film, I also believe that it brought the story back to it's melodramatic penny dreadful days. I saw the London production that you have pictured there and it was utterly fantastic.
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[personal profile] tei 2012-09-22 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. My first experience with the show was that movie, and I just came away with the impression that it wasn't a very good show. Then last year I played in the pit for it (in shall where the pit is ground level so you can actually see lots of the show) and thought it was the single most brilliant thing ever written. Going back to the movie, I realize it's just because Depp isn't, y'know, a singer. He can't hit the notes, and his voice is pretty, but he doesn't have the power it musicality of, well, someone who trained for years to be able to sing well.

The song Epiphany, for instance ("Who, sir? You, sur? Come on, no one's in the chair!"). The whole point if it is that he's alternating between violent outburst and episodes of despair, and most productions bring out the violence and tragedy in the music vocally. Depp clearly just isn't physically capable of doing that song, so they go the quiet-and-creepy route and it's really quite lame. And there are all sorts of things like that, where the intention of the music just can't come through.

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