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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-08-12 06:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #219 ]


⌈ Secret Post #219 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 103 secrets from Secret Submission Post #032.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 ] broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Monday, August 12th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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(Anonymous) 2007-08-13 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
*sighs* Yeah, right, whatever.

I'm so tired of arguing about it. I feel that what 6A is doing is stupid and does absolutely nothing to protect real children. Especially when they're perfectly willing to let pro-ana groups and groups advocating 'bibilical methods of child-rearing' (read- beating children with sticks) continue unbothered.

Not to mention, the new clarifications seem to point to an eventual blanket rejection of ANY portrayal, fic or otherwise, of anything sexual involving anyone under the age of 18. Just to point out the ridiculousness of this-- I'm in Buffy fandom. Our canon, shown on NETWORK TELEVISION, involves an underage girl (Buffy) having sex with an older man (Angel). She was 17, yes, age of consent in California at the time. By these new policies, however, no one can write fic about something shown on network television in prime time. Fine, whatever. I've even gone so far as to go back in my LJ and remove anything that could violate this policy, stupid as it is. I just hate that they have my money, changed policies on me, and I can't get my money back. I feel cheated. I feel screwed.
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[personal profile] inksmears 2007-08-13 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
6) I'm a hardcore (and very rare) EdxWinry fan... so maybe this is biased, but... I kinda saw that pairing coming a mile away in manga canon. Anime canon is a whole different ballgame, of course.

7) I fart in your general direction.

8) Liking mostly het, I'm use to my pairing getting bashed. XD;

11) DAMMIT, CAN'T WE ALL JUST LIVE IN PEACE?!?! Sometimes the dubs are awesome. Sometimes they aren't. But for God's sake, leave the VAs alone and just let them do their job! I hate fandom sometimes... I really do.

12) ..... I don't get it, but Yuuko > the universe regardless of who is shipped. 8D

18) Maybe just a little, but that doesn't stop me from loving their works. Dammit, I need to own Clover...

19) I need to see this movie, apparently.

21) Screw that. Just make Viz stop spelling things wrong and putting text in the wrong speech bubbles and I'll be happy. Not even kidding.

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(Anonymous) 2007-08-13 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I saw the EdxWin coming in the manga. Anime canon is definitely it's own ballgame... you can sort of ship anyone together.

and I do support EdxWin, I just prefer Elricest.

Re: 6.

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[identity profile] wao.livejournal.com 2007-08-13 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
This is definitely one of the more interesting (read: wanky) fandomsecrets posts in some time.

So I miss all the goddamn fun stuff because of my timezone, oh well.

[identity profile] bubble.livejournal.com 2007-08-13 09:58 am (UTC)(link)
...So much anger in this post. *shudder*
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[identity profile] desuthis.livejournal.com 2007-08-13 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
19)Ah, The Road to El Dorado. I missed it when it was on last week, because my father decided it would be a good time to come pounding on my door. I love that movie so much. I wonder if youtube would have it.

[identity profile] infi-inficio.livejournal.com 2007-08-13 10:52 am (UTC)(link)
11. :( That's... mean

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[identity profile] epicureal.livejournal.com 2007-08-13 11:39 am (UTC)(link)
7. I had no problems with the deletions either >.>

11. OH MAN I LOVE YURI LOWENTHAL. SCREW SASUKE, HE WINS AS HASEO. AND YURI IN KYOU KARA MAOU.

12. I-I think I love you, senor Secret Maker. Even if I do read the pairing. <333333

7roflwank

[identity profile] donkey.livejournal.com 2007-08-13 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
personally i'd rather have a pedo getting off on a drawing of a fictional character than a stickin' it in a real kid BUT HEY THAT'S JUST ME

[identity profile] yummycoffee.livejournal.com 2007-08-13 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
7. Obviously 6A is just trying to play it safe and cover their asses legally (though I still find it mind boggling that this issue has not come up until now, lol), but the way they are going about enforcing these new rules are just all kinds of wrong.

It doesn't take a lawyer to realize that the child exploitation laws in the U.S. are in reference to real children being photographed and filmed, not homo slash fanart. How hilarious that these were the first "pedos" banned. :P

12. I only read Holic in the hopes that there will be more blatant subtext between Watanuki and Doumeki. Otherwise I find the story to be rather boring. I wish Clamp would stop frolicking through the snoozefest of TRC and fucking finish Gohou Drug.

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[identity profile] nashidesei.livejournal.com 2007-08-13 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Late to the party, here, but I just wanted to mention that someone, somewhere, is getting off on the quicksand scene in The Princess Bride. Because everything is fetishable. Rule 34 and all that.

Some people are turned on by pretty shots of HANDS, so I guess we should ban all those perfume ads that have hands hold the bottle, right? It's "pornographic" to some people. And those hands are actually real, so that makes it SO much worse than fanart.

And heck, all those teen magazines had better go too, considering most of the models are under the age of eighteen and therefore "children." Let's take down the Disney Channel while we're at it for having shows featuring children doing less-than-childlike things, because someone's getting off on the thought of The Suite Life of Zack and Cody twincest RIGHT NOW.

Seriously, if we were to go around getting rid of everything that someone could get off on, there would be nothing left. There's probably someone out there turned on by the way that secret is arranged, so I guess you should be banned right now without anyone warning you about it.

I'm definitely NOT into the sort of thing that got those artists banned--abuse survivor, hi--but even I can tell that slashy fanart of fictional characters isn't hurting or taking advantage of anyone except, maybe, those fictional characters. If it were something like a photomanipulation of two REAL people, that would be something else entirely. But it wasn't. Those pictures weren't even close to photorealistic.

Although, all that aside, I'm seriously not nearly as bothered by the banninations as by how they were handled--after Barak SAID that fandom wasn't going to be screwed with anymore, and that there WOULD be notice given prior to deletion in the future. It's underhanded and dirty, and I don't get how anyone can think THAT is okay.

I can understand LJ wanting the pictures taken down--even though I've been told they were apparently f-locked, which everyone was told would work as a failsafe to avoid bannination back during the original Strikethrough--but the fact that they had a "ban first and don't answer any questions until waaaaay later" approach to it is what bothers me the most, and that's what I really and truly disapprove of.

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[identity profile] repeatvoffender.livejournal.com 2007-08-13 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Good God, irony.



So much.

[identity profile] rayiroth.livejournal.com 2007-08-13 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
2. I'll take that you ran into the same fanfiction as I did. =( That pairing squirked me out massively thanks to that.

11. PEOPLE DID WHAT. >=(

17. I'll take that you didn't get stalker flamers because you wrote something unpopular? Lucky you.
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[identity profile] kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com 2007-08-13 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
6- Ed/Winry isn't canon though either, right? Or has it been made it in the manga?

7- Well, that's what I think of shouta. I've made those arguments when they say 'it's not child porn!!' But I don't support deleting artists who draw...say...15 year old's or something. 16+ porn doesn't bother me. And a bit lower too. (plus, 16 is the legal age where I live.)

8- Me too. =(

10- I thought there was plenty...o.o

12- Fail. ._. Besides, the fandom doesn't bash Yuuko, I've never seen it. People tend to like her. (I personally ship the pairing and love Yuuko.)

18- I bash them at every possible chance, it seems. =( *uses appropriate avatar*

19- Which film was that again?

21- Pissed me off too. >_>

[identity profile] shuinoshina.livejournal.com 2007-08-14 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
But do they give her any props for it >>?
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[identity profile] kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com 2007-08-14 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Hell, wrong avatar. *idiot*

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[identity profile] repeatvoffender.livejournal.com 2007-08-15 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Canon in the manga. Nothing's really canon in the anime.

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[identity profile] eyesofbyakugan.livejournal.com 2007-08-13 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Ummm... I ship them not because of Yuuko or what she said but what CLAMP fruggin' DRAWS, for Mokona's sake!

Sheesh! Someone's bitter over a popular paring. O:
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[identity profile] cherrycoloured.livejournal.com 2007-08-13 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
4. MoMusu ftw! Have you seen [livejournal.com profile] renai_rev? A comm just for H!P femmeslash. A lot of the authors are pretty good too...

11. I don't like Sasuke, but I think Yuri is a lot better than his Japanese VA. Noriaki Sugiyama's voice is way too deep for Sasuke (though I love him as Ishida), while Yuri's is only a little too deep, but his performance makes up for it. He seems like a cool guy-I'd love to meet him at a con!

[identity profile] bobalunatic.livejournal.com 2007-08-14 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
7. Wow. This is one of those Secrets, isn't it? A secret that you would actually have good reason to post anonymously, as opposed to stuff like "I love this pairing! :)"

11. Booed?? That's terrible... He puts a lot of feeling and thought into his voice acting. And he's a great guy, if what I've heard around the 'net is true... Even if he was a shitey voice actor, it's only polite to clap or whatever for s guest. He took the time and trouble to get there, and people repay him by booing? That says a lot.

12. I agree so much.

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[identity profile] synthetyk.livejournal.com 2007-08-14 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
11. Like I posted a couple of weeks ago. the man's amazing and I regret ever saying anything bad about him. But hey, most of these 14-year-old Japanophiles only like the Japanese VAs because OMG DEY IZ JAPANEZE!!1!!!1`1111!

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[identity profile] shuinoshina.livejournal.com 2007-08-14 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
I know how you feel. they talk about how it's very welcoming, blahdy-blah, but it is only welcoming if you know some of the "people" so to speak.

I was honestly dissapointed that it didn't go completely under when some of the members took the actual RPG away fomr the creator and gave her a big fat "F-U" for the way she was acting.

[identity profile] ex-pinkocrac87.livejournal.com 2007-08-14 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
7. People keep saying child pornography. I don't think that phrase means what you all think it means. :\ (read: I disagree BIG TIME with this secret, but many others have said it in far better ways. And it has nothing to do with child porn.

AHEM. THAT SAID...

4. INSANE AMOUNTS OF WIN. I've been shipping idols since I became a wota. And yes. I'm a girl.

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[identity profile] angeladunn.livejournal.com 2007-08-15 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
OMYGOSH they actually DID THAT????
I only read the Japanese manga D8 and now I'm glad of it...

[identity profile] mint-green.livejournal.com 2007-08-27 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG 16 YES.

I used to have a deep, deep crush on Hannibal at 13. And maybe I still do

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