[ SECRET POST #2125 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2125 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

No idea about Roseanne's transwank, but I'm not surprised to hear of it considering that unless you say the exact right thing in the exact right context, you're going to offend gender queer people. Even then. (OH YOU SPELLED TRANS WRONG! FUCK YOOOOOOOOOU!!!!!)

[(Anonymous)]

(DA) I first saw this on Tumblr, but I am too lazy to find my more SJW-inclined friends' reblogs on the wank. I know this comm isn't fond of ONTD, but a lot of Tumblr wank makes it on the site, and here's a post from there about it: http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/73083271.html

Personally, I have no clue on what anyone's trying to prove in this wank.

[ellie_oops]

ONTD is fickle, I think it depends on who's online when a story gets posted.

There was literally a post about Kelly Clarkson saying she wasn't a "hardcore feminist," and the discussion was about how feminism often gets a bad rap and how some feminists give feminism a bad name. Then there was another post where Taylor Swift said pretty much the same thing and she was a horrrrrrible person.

[natural_blue_26.livejournal.com]

Links? Scared to go digging through that site for two specific pages :P

[ellie_oops]

Roseanne doesn't believe that transsexuals shouldn't have the same rights.

But I haven't seen South Park in years so I'm not too clear on what that is about. But South Park is an equal opportunity offender, so it wouldn't surprise me.

[(Anonymous)]

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What does South Park have to do with Roseanne? Was she on South Park and made a trans joke? It's South Park. Next week they'll be making jokes about Cartman going on a strict diet of shit. It's what they do.

[ellie_oops]

Roseanne got into a twitter fight because she feels that pre-op transexuals should use the mens or ladies room based on the genitalia they currently have. There is a huge wank in some feminist circles that trans women are not real women and therefore cannot be feminists.

I *think* what the op is saying is that both Roseanne and SP are both guilty of transphobia.

IDK, I can acknowledge that things in the media are *problematic* (I hate that word), but I'm not going to go on a rampage on how horrible everything is.

I like South Park, I like Roseanne. I wish Roseanne was more open minded when it came to gender identity, but I'm not going to let that ruin my weekend Roseanne marathons on TV Land. I sometimes think South Park goes too far, but it's South Park, it's what they do.

[shinyhappypanic]

In my opinion, that's the beauty of South Park--pretty much anyone could find at least one episode that they'd be offended by. It's fair that way. It might seem like they're going too far insulting one community one week, but then another week they'll go too far insulting the opposite side. I love it.

[ellie_oops]

ITA. One episode can be horrifically offensive to me, and the next one will be hilarious.

I kinda like that they are equal opportunity offenders, it reminds me not to take some shit too seriously.

[(Anonymous)]

See, I just choose to not be offended. It's satire. As others have said, "it's what they do".

If the creators honestly believe every single thing they've portrayed in an offensive way they are truly horrible people. However, I am a rational person and recognize that they DON'T believe it, they're just dicking about. Because that's why people watch the show.

[sondheimmcgeek]

This. South Park insults everyone. Obviously, not everyone likes this, and that's fine, but they're never biased to one group.

[(Anonymous)]

Even if they insult everyone, they still make episodes where they say certain groups or issues are wrong. They don't treat everything equally.

[(Anonymous)]

Certain episodes clearly have messages or morals they're trying to show. Did you see Mr. Garrison's Fancy New Vagina? The whole episode was about him getting a sex change, and how it was unnatural, how he was wrong and perverted, ect ect.

[(Anonymous)]

Did YOU see how at the end he was happy with "the new me" and ran off to find a man, and how for the rest of the season the character was called MRS Garrison and referred to as "she" with no further fuss? SO PHOBIC OMG.

[(Anonymous)]

Please, the whole point of the episode that it was unnatural and wrong; that they kept Garrison as a woman to use for more humor in later episodes doesn't negate that.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not seeing it.

It's fairly obvious when SP is lampooning something or when they have an actual agenda-- like the episode aout Terri Shiavo.

This episode was just them using transgender surgery as a launching pad for jokes about black people and dolphins.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think the episode had a "point". Matt and Trey admitted that they didn't have much of an idea of what to do so they said "Hey, let's do an episode on sex changes."

[(Anonymous)]

And their opinions didn't influence the way they wrote the episode?

[(Anonymous)]

Not necessarily. It is kind of hard to believe that they share the feelings of every episode they have. Their job is to make fun, and take the extremist view. If they didn't know what to write about, then they might have once again looked at that view.

[(Anonymous)]

Right. Did you see the episode where he gets his penis back? It was all about how genitals -don't- determine what gender you are.

[(Anonymous)]

No, it was that Garrison was never really a woman even though he had a sex change. Which is how the show treated him the whole time he was Mrs. Garrison.

[(Anonymous)]

It's like they don't get that the point of South Park is to be offensive! If everything in that show would reflect the creators opinions there would be nothing those two would like and approve off. Honestly, is there anything SP hasn't made fun off? Anything?!

[(Anonymous)]

Even when they make fun of everything, they still treat different groups and issues better than others.

[(Anonymous)]

Which groups are these?

[(Anonymous)]

Just a couple of examples, but Christians, Jews, and gays.