[ SECRET POST #2265 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2265 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

09. http://i.imgur.com/TV13YQ6.png

[(Anonymous)]

Same here.

[(Anonymous)]

Weren't there some shippers shipping Scully/Skinner and Mulder/Skinner back in days of the X-Files fandom? I mean they were a small contingency, but they were there. Nowadays I suspect there would be a lot more.

[brooms]

mulder/krycek was the biggest pairing after MSR, i think.

but mulder/scully was so huge, everything else was of laughable size in comparison, tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

One ship fandoms bore the fuck out of me, even when I like the ship in question. They also have the most annoying tendency to start to flanderize other characters to facilitate the ship, either by downplayng or bastardizing non-OTP characters so their canon relationships are less of a threat or by turning them into automatons solely there to squee over and encourage the OTP ship. The need to completely blow out of proportion any canon shippy moments also frustrates me. I mean, love your ship, embrace your ship, but be realistic about it, ffs.

I don't see nearly as much of this with fandoms that multiship. I see a whole lot less of people bastardizing the main character to promote a side pairing fan favorite OTP, I certainly see less belittling of actual canon relationships (romantic or platonic) to make the fan favorite OTP seem more important.

And, best of all, I see a whole lot less ship wank. Heaven forbid a group of fans like a different OTP. When single OTP fandoms don't learn to share the sandbox early, they have the worst tendency to be hostile when fans of another OTP show up. It's not a 100% guarantee that there's less ship wank, there's plenty of ship wank in fandoms that have a couple of OTPs, especially if the OTPs involve character A being shipped with characters B and C, but at least there's less of an overall sense of "why are you even here" going on.

Fandoms with only one major OTP are never hard for me to leave behind though. It helps that I never seem to ship the main fandom ship. Didn't ship Sterek, didn't ship Arthur/Eames, didn't ship Charles/Erik, didn't ship J2. I can't say I fault you for bowing out of any fandom that doesn't give you stories that are interesting. I do the same thing. But for me, pretty much any fandom with only one main pairing is going to be dull. At least if there's multishippers, I can usually find some group to hang out with.

[(Anonymous)]

I find that people in fandoms with one major OTP tend to take it as a given that everyone in fandom just ships what they ship, and have even seen people claim that they don't think it's "psychologically possible" for people to ship anyone else.

[lunabee34]

I agree with a lot of what you're saying here. I just find OTP-ing boring. I can go on a little spate of Wincest reading or McShep or whatever, and then I have to take a break because I get pairing fatigue. LOL I'm not bothered that other people only want to read about one pairing in a fandom, but that gets really dull for me really quicklyl.

[writerserenyty]

I kind of know the feeling; The X-Files was my formative fandom, and Mulder/Scully is STILL my lasting OTP, so I get really used to that. But on the other hand, lately I've been into really non-canon ships and it's weird for me.

I still have a hard time breaking up actual canon pairings, though.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I like fandoms with multiple shipping opportunities. I may find one OTP to Rule Them All, but I like side pairings. I may not favour much of the alternate pairings for my prime OTPs though (I ship Bagginshield, and while I can see how Bofur/Bilbo is cute and sweet... the hobbit belongs to the king in my headspace).

[(Anonymous)]

Haha, yeah I'm the same way.
I'm really open to multiships, and can see the potential, but in reality I only ever read/stan for one ship in the entire fandom. It's always been this way for me.
I usually end up staying in ones where my ship is the One Ship, or the biggest in any case, simply because the lack of fic and interest in the ship frustrates me to the point I lose interest.

[(Anonymous)]

But both of those fandoms had multiple ships. Mulder/Scully, Mulder/Skinner, Mulder/Krycek, Fraser/Ray V, Fraser/Ray k, Fraser/Thatcher, etc. Even in those fandoms the ship possibilities are endless.

[(Anonymous)]

I have no idea about Due South, but I know for a fact that Mulder/SKully far, far outweighed any of those other ships. OP is probably talking in thta sense, as in like Sterek of TW. That ship is so huge people hear about it before the show itself, even though there are other ships, it pretty much defines the fandom. Same with Mulder/Skully.

[brooms]

is2g, i spent 3 out of the 4 years my bb fan self invested in the x files fandom completely unaware pairings other than mulder/scully existed.

the first time i found a scully/skinner fic, i was horrified. like, this gif is an incredibly accurate representation of my reaction:



total mindfuck.

[(Anonymous)]

Same.

Well, at least in my main fandom there are several "fandom favourite OTPs" (all featuring different characters, so ship wars are neatly avoided), and I can't ship anything but those. I'm not interested in ~possibilities~ when their dynamics are already perfect, dammit.

[(Anonymous)]

For me, it's just that some fandoms are conducive to OTPing and some aren't. Think Inception (A/E OTP yay!) vs. Harry Potter (loads of intermixed pairings I like).

[(Anonymous)]

da

IDK, I don't see Inception as conducive to OTPing, personally. I'm not an A/E shipper but I can see why people can ship them. It's just that I can also see why people would want to ship Cobb/Arthur, Cobb/Saito, Arthur/Ariadne, Yusef/Eames, Cobb/Eames and so on. They all felt like they had equal potential for shipping to me and I've never understood why Inception fandom latched so hard onto A/E and rejected any other pairings.

The overwhelming OTP style of A/E made it not a hostile fandom for me (since again, I don't ship it), but decidedly not a welcoming one. I feel like I'm not alone with that either, given the high volume of people who comment now and again about just not getting why A/E was so popular and how they came out of the theatre shipping X/Y or nothing at all.

[(Anonymous)]

And you keep this a secret from people because...?

[intrigueing]

I like some one-ship fandoms, and find others incredibly boring. Totally depends on the canon material. I do find it fascinating that one-ship fandoms don't generally have less wank than multi-ship fandoms -- they make up for the lack of ship-to-ship combat by cultivating greater depths of wank between conflicting interpretations of the ship.

[aubry]

For me, the problem with single-ship fandoms is that you're almost inevitably stuck with a will they/won't they that outstrips credibility.

My first OTP were teased for the entire length of the show. There was a sense that they were inevitably end game. And I adored them. They owned my heart. But now that I have a little bit of distance, I can't help but admit that the best explanation for why they had so many near-miss moments was because she wasn't really that into him.

The other alternative - that it was always the wrong time, or that there was an interruption of the week every week of their lives is just so implausible.

[likeadeuce]

I'm curious about why one would consciously seek out a one-OTP fandom. Is it just be assured of having ENOUGH fic for your pairing? Is it to avoid shipwars? Because I feel like as long as you can find ships you like, what difference does it make if there are different groups that ship different things?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm like you, pretty much, except not as lucky. I would love OTP-fandoms, but I have never shipped the OTP. Never. Not once. And I've been in dozens of fandoms, some of them very one-pairing oriented.

It's a very sad thing. :(

[(Anonymous)]

Agree to disagree, I think. One ship fandoms are my least favourite, and megaships creep me out (fandom hiveminds of that magnitude are scary, okay?).

The fandoms I tend to stay in longest are ones with medium-to-large ensemble casts with a good selection of interesting character combos. I usually pick a couple of favourite characters and write/read them with everyone. A couple of favoured pairs might shake out of the mix, but usually it's favourite characters in about five or six favoured combinations apiece.

Of course, I started out in Harry Potter. Which taught me to fear the OTP, never get involved with ship wars, and pair lots of characters in lots of pairs, at least partially to spread the flak around. Eh. Formative fandoms, they'll do that to ya.

[diet_poison]

I like fandoms with multiple ships, but I usually don't multiship a single character. I might have lot of ships I like for a few characters but there's usually one I prefer.

[citrinesunset]

I think this works well if a) you happen to ship the fandom OTP and/or b) you're good at controlling your fannish interests based on whether a fandom fits your preferences.

Personally, it's not something I can relate to because I'm fannish about what I'm fannish about. Either a pairing or a fandom appeals to me or it doesn't. And it sucks with a fandom like Inception that's very OTP-ish, but where my OTP isn't the fandom OTP. On the one hand, I love the canon and my OTP. But the fandom never really delivers, so it's frustrating.

In general, though, I much prefer fandoms with a lot of ships. I like variety. And even though I usually do have one or two pairings that I like better than others, the more pairings there are in the fandom, the more likely it is that my pairings will be represented and appreciated.

[charming_stranger]

The number of ships is something fandoms are categorized by? I hope we're talking about fandom as in the fan culture around a work, not the works themselves?