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⌈ Secret Post #2284 ⌋

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Comments

Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[(Anonymous)]

Any thoughts, F!S?

I'm don't know much about wanks or tumblr so I can't judge if it was even that big, but when I found it I thought it was pretty funny, so I thought I would ask.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[(Anonymous)]

blah blah damn SJW ruining fandom!!!
white people blah blah
omg everyone is so PC these days
historical context!!!!!!1111

f!s reaction to any racism wank.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[(Anonymous)]

If you want to wank about f!s, maybe do it in a different thread? Idk...

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[morieris]

For once, I actually considered mentioning this upon a thread like this, but I guess I'm glad someone beat me to it?

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[(Anonymous)]

The only thing more annoying than SJW is anti-SJW.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[chardmonster]

Historical context is actually really fucking relevant here though. It takes place in 1912.

big spoilers

[saku]

not to mention the fact that the antagonist (who is also the protagonist) built a white paradise that is completely relevant to the historical significance of columbia and its drastic downsides

this is seriously the one game i can think of where the protag being white is the only thing that makes sense story-wise.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[kaijinscendre]

The wank is stupid.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[mekkio]

What's the wank, anyway?

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[(Anonymous)]

As someone below said of course I meant Bioshock Infinite.

Anyway, basically it was just a lot of people throwing a fit that there was blatant racism in the setting of the game, confusing it with the game itself being racist.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[scrubber]

BioShock 2?

NOT BioShock Infinite?

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[(Anonymous)]

....*facepalm*

Yes that is a brainfart of course.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[scrubber]

Well, alright.



/not done with the game

/ollies the fuck out of this thread

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[insanenoodlyguy]

It made idiots mad. Thumbs up!

The best way to combat racism

[chardmonster]

is to never ever mention people being racist.

You shouldn't mention racism unless, say, someone made a mistake coloring their Korra fanart, in which case we loudly hope they're sodomized with legos as part of our ongoing dialog on their privilege.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[dethtoll]

Bioshock 2 came out like 3 years ago. Get with the times.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[(Anonymous)]

Dethtoll: man of bringing up things that have already been addressed because he can't be assed to read prior comments.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[sugar_spun]

Well...I can see it. I mean, if you're going to start your game with a really big theme about racism, where both your main characters are white, making the only major black character "just as bad" (as in, Elizabeth and Booker keep repeating that this is the case) as the extremely racist, jingoist, terrorist main villain...yeah, I can see it.

The message is against extremism in general, but if you're going to have a game that deals with racism (and they're are very, very few games that do), and all of the black characters in it are lunatics...Well, yeah, I see the issue.

Now, I'm positive it wasn't intentional on the part of the developers. Basically everyone is a bad person outside of the two main characters (and Booker and Elizabeth have their moments), and the story is about the perils of extremism and so on. So I know it wasn't their intention...but, it's rarely about intentionally sending these kinds of messages.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[hallokatzchen]

It wasn't about the game being accurate for the time period, the reactions to the game from many black people was about the content being triggering (god that word has lost its meaning so hard).

A friend of mine said that the content was very upsetting to her so she's not going to play the game, and unfortunately that went from people telling her "don't be so sensitive" all the way to people calling her all manner of slurs and sending her death threats all because she said that she doesn't want to play a game that was triggering to her.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[(Anonymous)]

Not exclusively. One of the top comments I read was from someone who didn't care and didn't know what the storyline was and still called the game a racist piece of shit or something... I can understand when people react to comments like that (not... excessively of course, what is it with tumblr and death threats??), but for just feeling uncomfortable that irritated me too, I think people were mixing up two stances on the issue.
Or maybe people were just being douchebags about it I don't know.... I wouldn't give anyone shit for not playing say a zombie game if they're afraid of it I don't see why it should be different with other themes that can upset people.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[(Anonymous)]

I personally understand your friend. I took the game back and told the store that it is a blatantly racist game and a platform for hate messages. I also find it funny that people that have never experienced open racism always try to excuse it away as if it is not real. They say things like Awe I hate the racism wank, and oh black people, (incidentally who have experienced racism, and know what it is) should just get over it. This game in my opinion was meant to trigger hurt, and anger no matter what people choose to say. I was disappointed in bsi and If the developers are responsible because they knew exactly what they were doing. Making a game that they knew would hurt those that have suffered that kind of hate.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[(Anonymous)]

I personally understand your friend. I took the game back and told the store that it is a blatantly racist game and a platform for hate messages. I also find it funny that people that have never experienced open racism always try to excuse it away as if it is not real. They say things like Awe I hate the racism wank, and oh black people, (incidentally who have experienced racism, and know what it is) should just get over it. This game in my opinion was meant to trigger hurt, and anger no matter what people choose to say. I was disappointed in bsi and If the developers are responsible because they knew exactly what they were doing. Making a game that they knew would hurt those that have suffered that kind of hate.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[gobbledigook]

I don't think the game is racist, but as far as this wank goes I think the anti-sjw side is way crazier and unpleasant.

It's like they know they can just scream "sjw this sjw that" whenever someone tries to talk or criticize anything and frankly that's incredibly stupid and annoying. It might be because I seem to not come across SJW without making any effort to seek them out, whereas the anti-sjw are everywhere, always complaining about their fun that's being always ruined.

Also white fans telling black people off for being upset at the racism on the game. Can we not.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[sugar_spun]

Gamers are particularly obnoxious at refusing to acknowledge that there could be anything sexist, racist, or homophobic in games. Or covering their ears to it whilst simultaneously telling you to shut up and stop overreacting. It only gets worse if it's about a popular game.

Re: Bioshock 2 Racism Wank

[chardmonster]

Also white fans telling black people off for being upset at the racism on the game. Can we not.

I'm not going to decide not to engage with a person's publicly shared opinions based on their background.

The first scene of blatant racism in the game is jarring and upsetting and ought to be as that is the point. Racism is gross and wrong and upsetting and people shouldn't be so terribly upset when it is presented as gross and wrong and this has an upsetting effect.

Would it be better to have yet another trashy steampunk setting where we just kind of ignore racism? "Yes, the past was awesome! Corsets and mustaches!"