[ SECRET POST #2317 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2317 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 048 secrets from Secret Submission Post #331.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[truxillogical]

+1 :)

[(Anonymous)]

They do actually have a bit more interaction in the 'Fury's Big Week' comic series that is a prequel to the Avengers movie. A little more interaction after the scene from the Thor movie (showing that it was Clint's idea to cut Thor loose after they captured him) and then there was a scene of the two of them sharing a car driving away from New Mexico, Clint driving Coulson napping. It doesn't seem like enough to launch a ship to me, but it's more than the single two lines over the comm in the movie.

[truxillogical]

TBH, that is a thing that happens with a lot of other pairings as well. I mean, there's an awful lot of unexplained Tony/Steve or Natasha/Bruce or Natasha/Maria that pops up in the background, just for an example (I'd say "unexplained Tony/Bruce" but really, the movie did build that one pretty well). There's at least some interaction between most of those characters, but even so, it's abrupt to suddenly have a romance plopped down like of course it exists.

I've gotten to the point where I just roll with it unless the ship actively squicks me. Avengers is a crazy fandom.

[heartsday]

Re: Non-Fandom Secrets

[(Anonymous)]

I know... EXACTLY how you feel.

[truxillogical]

Insert image of applauding character here, because that's about as good a run-down of fandom's approach to shipping and fic in general and to Clint/Coulson in particular as one could hope to find.

If canon interaction were so crucial to any fandom, I doubt we'd see the AUs we do.

A while back I noticed the big difference between fangirls and fanboys. I mean, I hate to generalize based on gender, so maybe it should be more in fangirl/fanboy-dominated space or something like that, but anyway...fanboys seem more invested in what physical actions a character took (can Superman beat the Hulk?), whereas fangirls seem more invested in the emotional actions of the character (what do you think Tony went through when he realized he went farther from Earth than any human being ever and slaughtered thousands, if not millions, of the second alien species to make contact with Earth?). It's not a hard-and-fast rule, but it's part of, I guess, what lends fic toward not needing to rely on the canon actions of characters so much as the characters themselves.

Also, y'know, in all the explanations I've ever given for Clint/Coulson, I've almost never actually brought up the most obvious of "uptight and bespoke with snarky and rugged." Silly me.

[truxillogical]

Pretty well-laided-out reasons for the pairing, really.

It makes me kinda surprised that I never see anything even remotely like this in the hundreds of romance books that come through the library. Granted, there isn't a lot of m/m romance in that genre, but clearly ladies do like it.

I never knew I had a secret agent kink until this pairing showed me exactly what you can do with those circumstances (plus trust. Okay, so trust is apparently my thing).

You're right about the quality too. I mean, there's a lot of really cheesy-to-terrible stuff as well, but for what it is and for what fanfic usually is, there's a surprising percentage of good fic, and the good fic is really well-written. (Like, the first time I have no problem rec'ing fic to a friend.)

[truxillogical]

Clint/Coulson is one of those pairings that doesn't make sense until it suddenly does.

QFT

[truxillogical]

My hero!

[truxillogical]

Sounds like you're doing fandom just fine to me.

I love going to cons, I love cosplay, but honestly, I see a lot of stuff that I have no idea what it is, if it's a particular character or an OC or possibly just the way that person dresses because they are groovy like that or because this is a con and you can dress however you want. It's all good--and probably pretty flattering to be told that a coat you made looks like it was professional-quality clothing.

Sub-genres...I am fascinated by them, and that's probably the only reason why I know as many as I do. I don't READ most of them, but I think it's just...fandom and fanfic culture is just fascinating. Terrifying sometimes too. But it makes me wish I were a sociology student or something, because it's something I'd love to study.

Re: What fandoms are getting tired of?

[caecilia]

Homestuck, tbh, but I still love the characters. I'm just going to stay on f!s and within my own small group of friends and quietly disregard the actual fandom. Except for art I see on my dashboard.

[(Anonymous)]

I would have so much more respect for you if you did all that activity under a single username.

[(Anonymous)]

While I don't think this show "ruined" Teen Titans, I dislike it very strongly because, to me, the episodes feel like bad fanfics of the first show. Also, I find it rather unfunny.

Re: Well yeah, certainly.

[(Anonymous)]

Yellow road, not gold. And I'd buy into the allegory a lot more if anyone ever tried to explain the parts of the book that *weren't* in the MGM movie version -- what do the Kalidahs stand for? The wolves? The Tin Woodsman becoming the king of the Winkies? The Fighting Trees? China Country? If gold's what the story's about, why not explain the one actual mention of gold in the book, the Golden Cap that controls the Winged Monkeys, which ends up being arguably more useful to Dorothy than the shoes are?

Seriously, the argument that Baum actually encoded political allegory into a children's book so well that it went completely unmentioned for sixty years, until a high school teacher finally cracked the code, is pretty much dead among both economic historians and literary analysts today. It just lingers on because people like smart-sounding ideas that can impress other people at parties, even if they don't hold up to scrutiny.

[astridv]

I'm into super spies and co-workers big time, but Clint/Coulson manages to hit on several of my squicks at the same time. I can't count the number of times I've backbuttoned in the middle of a story because it suddenly showed up, entirely unmotivated.

[(Anonymous)]

first reaction: Sounds like a waste of energy to me...

second reaction: Wow, OP must have a lot of time on his/her hands.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, once my friends and I were asked if we were cosplaying a group for a particular manga none of us had heard of. Only we weren't.

Re: Can we just agree on this?

[astridv]

*shrugs* With most pairings I wouldn't care. But my distaste for C/C is so great that yeah, the mere 1-line mention of it catapults me out of a story I've so far enjoyed. The moment it's mentioned, it becomes of that story's 'verse and my mind supplies all the background, as it does when you're reading a story.

Re: What fandom related thing are you looking forward to?

[(Anonymous)]

The Smiler in hopefully less than a month.
http://www.the-smiler.com/thesmiler/

Re: It most certainly exists!!!

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

THANK YOU SO MUCH! :D

My favourite characters (other than Batman himself) are Cassandra Cain, Barbara Gordon, Jason Todd, and Carrie Kelley, so recs for any of them would be greatly appreciated. I'll read any pairing that isn't Bruce/one of his sidekicks. Again, thank you!

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

The adults in Mary Poppins act moderately adult. None of the "adult" characters in The Wizard of Oz seem all that adult, not even the Wizard or Glinda.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, it annoys the fuck out of me too. It's goddamn everywhere and treated like canon and hardly ever labelled.

Re: Can we just agree on this?

[(Anonymous)]

I 100% agree with this. All pairings should be tagged/mentioned, full stop.

[(Anonymous)]

The worst is when you start a Dean/Cas fic only to find that it that not only has Sam/Gabriel as a secondary pairing but also Adam/Michael...

Re: I need help

[(Anonymous)]

Are you nuts?