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Recently Blip has added a 90 second black screen for people who use ad block. It basically tells you to take it off, because their commercials are only 30 seconds. This prompted some internet content people, mostly on TGWTG to ask people to stop blocking the ads.

I don't normally watch Linkara, very, very rarely do I. I think it sucks people are blocking his ads, but...If the only way for you to make money is with reviews, then maybe you should get a different job? Internet reviewing doesn't seem like the most stable of job choices.

So, do you think ad blocking is a dickish move?

No. But then again, I use adblock, so I suppose I'm biased.

The thing is, most ads on most sites are obnoxious and prone to slowing down my computer a fuckton. So I block them because otherwise I wouldn't visit the site at all.

I highly doubt most people use adblock purely out of some vindictive urge to hurt the site's revenue - most people I know, at least, use it because ads are fucking annoying. If a site owner has a problem with people blocking ads, then I think it's fair that they request that people not use it, but punishing people for using adblock I feel is more likely to simply drive people away from their site anyway. So.../shrug.

Generally, no. That 90 second block was pretty ineffectual for me because I don't mind the waiting, I just hate the ads. I'm sick and tired of being bombarded by commercials for shit I don't want. Constant ad exposure is a legitimate source of stress (not only internet ads), and while I like that review site and wish them the best, I also like my brain being healthy.

I don't use adblock, because I'm getting a service. I figure the least I can do is file my nails while ignoring a 30-second ad that helps the one providing said service.

So, yeah. Sometimes I think it's kind of dickish.

Edited 2013-05-19 00:04 (UTC)

I don't block ads, but I avoid places which have too many ads.

No, not really. 9.9999999 times out of 10, I'm not gonna click on a ad and if the sites been hacked, ads can give you a virus or so I've heard. I have my trusted shopping sites that I go to. If the person I want to support has a click on this click and if you buy something on Amazon I'll get a kickback from it no matter what you've purchased, then, yeah, I'll click on it when I need to buy something from Amazon so they get a kickback, but, yeah, that's basically it. Sometimes I'll click an ad to give them a boost if I want to. I've gone to sites that I've later learned had their ads compromised and people got infected, but I didn't since I had blocked the ads. So, yeah, I usually don't see them and some sites are much more usable and friendly to my computer when I block the ads.

I think there's ads and there's ads. The ones that just sit at the top, bottom or side of the page doing nothing are no problem at all - I think it's reasonable to leave them be and help the site out financially.

And then there are the other ones. Colors that make my eyes bleed, blinking, blaring loud music/text/rude noises and following you all the way down the page. They make me wish I were using something to block them.

In other words: if some sites didn't have such obnoxious ads, I think ads should be tolerated for the service a sie provides. Since so many sites have ads that aim at giving the viewer a headache, I don't think those sites have a right to complain about ad blocking.

On the one hand, yeah, kind of dickish to block ads for no reason. Somebody's providing you with free entertainment, and the ad:content ratio is WAY lower than television.

On the other hand, a lot of people have problems with the ads. I haven't yet got to the point of engaging adblock, but I end up watching the commercials dozens of times because Blip crashes the video if you lose your connection, at least on my computer, and my internet sucks. I have to reload the page (and rewatch the ads) to get it back. It's driving me absolutely up the wall.

On the third hand, Linkara's attitude is really starting to grate on me. I can't quite put my finger on why. Maybe it's that he has admitted elsewhere that his revenue is down in general, most likely due to decreased interest. His response to that isn't to up his game, produce better content, or take a risk and switch things up to generate interest... but to get mad at people with adblock on. I kind of get that response, but at the same time, internet reviews are something most people do for fun and love of the media, and here this guy is acting like he's entitled to make a living off ads. Like, not even ads in general, since he won't slap up a Project Wonderful skyscraper, but this particular kind of ad that I think most people would agree is very annoying and disruptive.

On the fourth hand, I'm going to keep watching Linkara's stuff and reading the comments, because I really feel like he's going to have a meltdown soon and I don't want to miss it.

They've forgotten one thing, internet reviews should never be your day job. I cringed when he said he'd have to get a real job and stop doing reviews if people didn't take adblock off, because he couldn't do the videos and work you guys! Seriously? If you can't work and do videos on comics, then maybe you shouldn't be doing videos on comics.

Internet reviewer is not a stable job. It's also not sustainable. I doubt it'll last ten more years, to be honest. Doug found that out the hard way (And then complained when people wanted the Nostalgia Critic. Too funny that he thought he was that great)

AYRT

I think internet reviewers are probably going to stick around indefinitely, and there's probably always going to be a handful that can make a living off ad revenue, but never the same people and never forever. No matter which way you spin it, you're relying on being part of whatever fad hits next. Put another way, you're counting on staying ahead of every whim of the internet. The "reviewing bad things by getting angry and snarky" fad is already well on its way out, in my opinion.

I'm going to be really annoyed if Linkara blames adblock when he inevitably has to quit, going out with a chip on his shoulder rather than recognizing the general declining interest in his kind of reviewing.

Doug had to go back to the Nostalgia Critic just to keep the site from having to close down. And it seems even with his old character back, the site is still dying.

I agree with the 'angry review rage' fad being over. It's not new or funny anymore, honestly. And I don't understand why he needs merchandise. You review comic books, why do you need t-shirts...?

No.

We are surrounded by more ads now than ever before. I go for a drive, there's ads on billboards and buses, ads in the shops, on TV, on the radio.

They're fucking obnoxious, and often carry messages designed to make me feel like shit about myself so they can sell me more stuff I don't want or need. I have a low tolerance for things like bright, flashing lights and loud noises, so all those ads stress me out and give me sensory overload.

Unless I'm actively trying to support the content provider (eg. a TV show I love), I will not sit through yet more advertising.

Thank God for adblock; at least I can escape advertising on the internet.

There's also the fact that blip sometimes shows those 90-second thing even if you have adblock off. Yes, this happened to me, and looking at the replies to Linkara's video, I'm not the only one. I thought it was because I only disabled it on blip, but some people said they don't even USE adblock and they're getting the 90-second thing.

I only block ads that use infotracking apis, which is most of them. If an ad isn't pulling any info off my system, then I see it. If it's trying to pull information off my computer, then it gets blocked and and my computer sends out an alert to the webhost that their ad(s) are blocked for trying to access private data. I will never feel bad for protecting my personal information. I think it's dickish that anyone thinks I should give my IP address and web history to advertisers.

I once went on a binge of Nostalgia Critic videos when Adblock hadn't been updated and whatever video service he was using could get past it.

Every single video had this same minute and a half unskippable ad. The same one. With the same awful jingle, obnoxious voiceover about how fucking great these fucking chips were, and the same stupid slurping/chewing sounds because MMMM these fucking chips.

On the videos where it cuts out in the middle to have an ad? Same ad. Every. Single. Time.

By the fourth video, I just stopped and did something else until the ads were blocked again.

I don't mind turning off adblock for banners or the like if it helps a site. But when your ads are repetitive, obnoxious, and unavoidable? Not only will it give me a psychological need to AVOID your stupid product, but fuck you, I PREFER ninety seconds of silence over that bullshit.

God, yes. This is my biggest problem with blip ads. I go through playlists of tgwtg as I do homework but it always uses the same ad, which drives me up the wall after the fifth time.

Nope. I got adblock because there sheer amount of ads on EVERYTHING would slow loading times and clutter up the pages so fucking much.
I get bombarded by enough adds going to the bus shelter, I refuse to deal with them in my down time when I'm just reading some articles or looking at pictures or whatever.
It's in no way associated to their revenue and if internet adds are the only kind of revenue they're getting, well, probably should have a contingency plan 'cause I'm not going to be clicking on them anyway.

If someone was gonna punish me for using adblock though, such at 90 seconds of blank screen, well. Actually I probably wouldn't care. I can deal with 90 seconds of blank screen, it's way preferable to some fucking annoying add of 30 seconds.

So from my utterly biased view, no it's not a dickish move.

OP, I take offense to your assertion that you should get a different job if your job is reviewing things on the internet because it won't give you enough money. I take offense because it's a nonsensical assertion. If people couldn't live on the money that reviewing things full time brings, then they wouldn't be reviewing things full time. Or they'd be dead. That's... how it works.

People are able to live on reviewing things full time, but this is a fluke, a temporary irregularity, an exception to the ordered operation of the universe. They should not expect it to continue, they should not plan on it to continue, and they shouldn't demand from the universe that the universe find a way to make it continue.

At least that is, I think, what OP means to say.

The truth hurts, but it is never an insult. The fact is, is that it ISN'T paying all of his bills anymore. He's now asking people to stop blocking his ads/donate money to him, because his only source of income is dwindling.

He should find a better job, because once the bottom falls out, he will have nothing. (And all signs point towards TGWTG inevitable demise.)

I'd take adblocking off more often for sites if I didn't keep hearing stories about people who caught malware through ads simply loading on the page. If I can't reasonably expect websites to ensure my browsing is safe, then they can't reasonably expect me to turn off my adblock. And I completely respect their right to use ads and to push me into turning of my block, because I can always go elsewhere. So...whatever.

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