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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-13 03:49 pm

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Re: Trayvon Martin Case:WTF

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, go home and show the person that is following me where I live. Brilliant plan.

Re: Trayvon Martin Case:WTF

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
He lost track of him. He was essentially in the clear. If he had run, Zimmerman would have never found him. It was a worse idea to circle back and jump the crazy person who was following you. And it really WAS a bad idea, as it got him shot.

Re: Trayvon Martin Case:WTF

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
He had also been suspended from school for having a large amount of drugs in his backpack, which is why he was visiting there in the first place.(He sold it at school). He didn't make a lot of good life choices, honestly.

Re: Trayvon Martin Case:WTF

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
So he totally deserved to be shot and killed, right? JFC this case really brings out the ugly in people.

Re: Trayvon Martin Case:WTF

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
He wouldn't have been shot had he not walked back and jumped his follower and pummeled him into the ground. Zimmerman was calling for help, and no one answered. Trayvon broke his nose and slammed his head against the pavement repeatedly. Zimmerman shouldn't have shot Trayvon, but he still had a right to defend himself.

Re: Trayvon Martin Case:WTF

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds like he was trying to stand his ground, like Florida state law says he was entitled to. This case is just an ongoing education in why stand your ground laws are stupid, and why retreat to safety laws are much more sensible.

Re: Trayvon Martin Case:WTF

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
And Zimmerman wouldn't have gotten his head bashed in, nor Trayvon killed, if he had stayed in his car. The snowball of bad decisions that night started with one person and it wasn't Trayvon out minding his own business.

Re: Trayvon Martin Case:WTF

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I watched the part of the trial dealing with part of what you're referring to. The medical expert said nothing about Zimmerman's injuries were consistent with being "slammed" on the ground repeatedly, and his other injuries were very minor.

Re: Trayvon Martin Case:WTF

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
A broken nose is minor? There's also the txt messages on his cell. He bragged about beating up a 'snitch' and he wasn't ever going to stop until he sees them 'bleed'.

And of course the picture he took of himself holding a gun that didn't belong to him. At least Zimmerman owned his gun -legally-.
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Re: Trayvon Martin Case:WTF

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-07-13 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
He didn't deserve to be shot and killed. Nobody does.

However, the portrayal of a seventeen year old guy as an innocent child is misleading and frankly insulting to Trayvon.

However, the fact that he liked pot has nothing to do with the altercation. Eyewitnesses report that it looked like the person matching Trayvon's description was on top and winning, which does matter.

Don't jump people, even if they're skeevy. They might shoot or knife you after you smack their head against the pavement a couple times.
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Re: Trayvon Martin Case:WTF

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-07-13 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm firmly of the opinion there was no "right" person in this clusterfuck. Zimmerman did catalyze it, and I think the law is bullshit. But you won't find me with a "Martin/George was right" banner anytime soon.
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Re: Trayvon Martin Case:WTF

[personal profile] silverau 2013-07-13 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate when people keep bringing this shit up. That has NOTHING to do with what happened I mean so what he was a teenager who did stupid shit; what teenager DOESN'T do stupid shit?

Re: Trayvon Martin Case:WTF

(Anonymous) 2013-07-13 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
It was part of his lifestyle and train of thought. He got into fights, he stole things, he sold drugs. He wasn't the innocent child looking for skittles. He went after Zimmerman because he felt it was in his right to jump him, because that is part of that lifestyle. Zimmerman followed him and asked why he was there. Jumping someone who was clearly not your physical equal* and beating the hell out of him is not a warranted reaction to being followed.

He was shorter and slightly overweight. And that's ignoring the fact he had ample time to run home, but instead decided to fight.
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Re: Trayvon Martin Case:WTF

[personal profile] blunderbuss 2013-07-14 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Riiiiiiiiiight.

First off, HE WAS INNOCENT. He wasn't doing anything wrong when he was walking home and wasn't doing the things that Zimmerman was accusing him of doing. At the time he really was an innocent person getting skittles.

The fact that he'd done some shit before doesn't change that. Even people with a history of crime and wrongdoing can be an innocent victim in a crime. Innocent does not mean 'a perfect cherub who has done nothing wrong ever' but 'did nothing to provoke/deserve a crime commited against them'. Otherwise it'd be open season on anyone with a criminal record.

And 'part of his lifestyle', are you fucking serious. Apparently having pot gives you the mindset of a hardened criminal (which again means you're not innocent and it's cool to shoot you).
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Re: Trayvon Martin Case:WTF

[personal profile] silverau 2013-07-14 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
THANK YOU.

I don't get why people are too stupid to figure this out.
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Re: Trayvon Martin Case:WTF

[personal profile] silverau 2013-07-14 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
Got into fights, stole things, drugs - you say that like that's the most horrifying scandalous thing ever and everyone who does that is a hardened criminal. How sheltered are you? MOST teenagers have done at least one of those things. That doesn't mean they have some kind of dangerous lifestyle and won't grow out of it. That doesn't make them horrible people who will beat up strangers without being provoked.

And not his physical equal, are you kidding me?? You know that overweight people have more total muscle than slim people, right?? And that it's harder to throw an overweight man off-balance. Plus, Zimmerman is a grown-man and Trayvon was a teenage boy.

But hey, while we're talking about lifestyle, let's not forget the fact that Zimmerman is accused of molesting at least two girls and grew up in an openly racist family: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/16/george-zimmerman_n_1676729.html