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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-13 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #2415 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2415 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Arrested Development]


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[Ray Donovan]


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[30 Rock]


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[Lady Gaga]


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[Gerard Way of My Chemical Romance]


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[ATLA]


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[Mabinogi]


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[The Hobbit]


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[Teen Wolf]


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[Top left: Sora and Riku from Kingdom Hearts
Top right: Sam and Dean from Supernatural
Bottom left: Akanishi Jin and Yamashita Tomohisa
Bottom right: Legolas and Aragorn from Lord of the Rings]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 049secrets from Secret Submission Post #345.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: These are my CONFESSIONS....

(Anonymous) 2013-08-13 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Only because I just had an argument with my mother about this: I don't have a problem with limiting abortions to the 20-week mark. That's five months. It's half a pregnancy. And spare me the "but some people don't know they're pregnant yet!" whining.

Because if you're having sex, then pregnancy tests -- much like HIV and other STD tests -- need to be a part of managing your sexual health.

Re: These are my CONFESSIONS....

(Anonymous) 2013-08-13 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
...And the rape victims who are in denial about their assault/afraid to tell anyone what happened to them/still under the power of their abuser? The women who don't have health insurance that covers abortions and are desperately trying to scrape together the money to pay for an abortion/take the time off from work to jump through all the hoops required to get one (hoops which are often designed to make the process take longer than it needs to)? The women who develop serious medical problems that cause an otherwise wanted pregnancy to threaten her life or health? The women who discover that their fetuses are dead or have deformities incompatible with life?

Even if you make exceptions for rape victims or the life of the mother (which many people are unwilling to do), forcing women to jump through hoops to prove they qualify for those exceptions isn't doing those women, who are already suffering, any favors. And if a woman was unable or unwilling to report her assault to the police for any number of legitimate reasons, how does she qualify for the exception?

Re: These are my CONFESSIONS....

(Anonymous) 2013-08-13 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, absolutely. If a fetus is dead, it must stay in its mother until 9 months have passed. Don't be so obtuse.

And yeah, I'm sorry, I don't think your circumstance makes abortion OK, unless that circumstance is "I could die." Maybe that's harsh, but that's the way it is.

Re: These are my CONFESSIONS....

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-08-14 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Could you explain why you think your opinion should have any deciding factor circumstances not your own? Why do you think you somehow know better than the woman whose life this choice affects?

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-14 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe that's harsh, but that's the way it is.

That's the way what is? The world? No, that's what your opinion is. Don't act as if it's an end-all, be-all thing.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-13 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
No. Problems develop afterwards, people are forced to wait or go through pain. Developments happen, really bad developments happen. Contrary to expectation pro-choice are not happy children killers...and yes, some people don't exactly show their pregnancy and may be unaware of their pregnancy.

Especially since HIV/STD tests aren't every....gee it'd have to be checking every 2 or 3 months? No.

You can't grab something like when a fetus can be aborted and go "It has to be before this mark or you're out of luck". It's too complicated for that. Especially since 20 weeks the fetus is still teeny tiny and quite a few people won't show yet.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-13 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
URGH do we have to do this? It's too early in the morning for your body policing

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-13 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Then...gtfo? Seriously, if this isn't a thread you want to be a part of, don't be a part of it.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-13 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
No, there's going to be a giant explosion over this and I will feel compelled to read all of it. Then I'm going to come away feeling depressed and disillusioned over the OP's ability to be an empathetic being.

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-08-13 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no. And frankly - fuck you. You have no say, and no right to control, what i do with my body.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-14 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
DA

And you have NO right to kill another human being. Fuck you.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-08-14 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
A fetus isn't a human being, so fuck right off with that.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-14 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
I do, actually, if it's living like a leech off my body. It's the same reason it would be all right to kill vampires, see?

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[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-08-14 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
Fine. Don't kill the fetus. Just take it out without altering my bodily integrity and then deal with it yourself.

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gdit I really hope you tracked this, whoever you are

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-14 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, you do have a right (legally speaking) to self-defense, such as killing a human being that's harming you. And if a human being is stealing the precious resources of my body from me against my will, and might straight up murder me when exiting my body in a violent rupture of blood, then yes, I have a right to kill it.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-14 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
If they are invading my body without my consent, yes I damn well do. No one is entitled to my body. Fuck you.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-14 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Did the OP say they have the right? No. Learn to read. They stated an opinion on what they think of a LAW.

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[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-08-14 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
Their opinion is that the government has the RIGHT.

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[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-08-14 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I'm gonna go ahead and confess I think you're a judgmental nosy butthead with a very limited understanding between the difference theory and reality.

Oh and CSB? My mother tested negative for pregnancy on two separate blood tests done by medical professionals before she started treatment for a pituitary tumor. Turns out she was three months pregnant with me at the time of the tests.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-14 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
“No woman wants an abortion as she wants an ice cream cone or a Porsche. She wants an abortion as an animal caught in a trap wants to gnaw off its own leg.”

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-14 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
A-fucking-greed.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-14 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Then maybe she shouldn't have sex if the consequences of it are too much for her.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-14 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
I love all the people who are freaking out about this confession. Hello, it's a confession. You're not supposed to think oh love and puppies about it. You're not even really supposed to debate it - you're entitled to as it's a public forum, but it's pretty darn pointless to the point of stupidity.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-14 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
You know, insane extremist about this topic that I am, I might actually agree with you, if I could walk down the street to get an abortion at any public hospital for a reasonable fee - or covered by health insurance - without any harassment. Since that isn't the case - what with clinics being shut down left and right all over my country, people being allowed to picket outside anywhere that allows abortions, that women have to pay, out of pocket, hundreds of dollars for the procedure (and that isn't even counting the cost of transportation to a clinic, which can be all the way out-of-fucking-state in some places), and widespread lack of health coverage for abortion - then twenty weeks just isn't long enough.

People say they want women to think long and hard about ending a life, and then harass them for not doing it fast enough? Really?

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-14 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
the abortion rates after the first 15-20 weeks would plummet if sex education, contraceptive availability and easier abortion access were all truths in this society. the drive to limit abortion is what causes so many of these later abortions. people who care about human life would recognise that abortion at 6 weeks is better than abortion at 28; that not preaching abstinence and rendering youth uneducated yet still horny is what puts so many couples/people in this situation to begin with; that making women jump through hoops to get decent birth control won't prevent them from having sex, which is clearly the "real" goal in doing that.

this isn't hard to get. i understand your sentiment, and i definitely do not like to see later abortions. i don't like to see them at all, really, and i think almost all women who are pregnant and do not wish to be would agree. but the key to reducing abortions is not to restrict access to them. it's already too late, if that's your gameplan. the key to reducing abortions is to prevent unwanted pregnancies, period.