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Maybe D&D from the Game of Thrones disaster should read some of your fics and stop with the shaved pussies already.

Though I think that never shaved female legs wouldn't generally be as in-the-jungle-the-mighty-jungle as we might think.

Yeah on GOT the shaved pussies sometimes take me out of it more then anything. Shaved legs are one thing, a lot of women have fine hair and/or blonde hair on their legs which isn't noticeable so I could sort of buy it. But the perfectly smooth/waxed look takes me out of the story sometimes.

Unless there is some magic spell these women use to be hairless from the neck down.

GRRM actually describes women as bushy "down there" (euphemism courtesy of E.L.James) a couple of times, so there's no spell. It's just the hypocrisy of the writers who like to boast about the show displaying the medieval-like world as nasty and gritty and dark oh-so-realistic --- until a naked woman with a Brazilian appears.

Um,there have been ways for women to remove hair from the pubic area since the Greek times. It was considered a status symbol of class and standing for a woman to have her pubic hair removed. Roman woman used volsella which were tweezer-like tools. Various depilatory creams have existed as well. And women of a high class in medieval times were also known to remove body hair.

So, no magic spells just what they had at the time.

I was responding to the GOT criticism though, where most of the women who are depicted naked are not high class and many of them are in situations where they would not be spending hours wasting time removing their pubic hair. Like if say Cersei was depicted as very clean and shaven, I could understand that, but what about characters from harsher environments like Ygritte?

I'm mostly calling out the showrunners, because GRRM doesn't describe his characters as completely waxed and how perfect the women look naked on the show often distracts from the storytelling.

Yup. This is why I roll my eyes a bit when people to think that it's totally unrealistic for any character to lack pubic hair. Even leaving aside depilation, if there are clean-shaven dudes around, surely it's not too big of a stretch to imagine women occasionally shaving that area?

So yeah, a certain type of women removing hair doesn't bother me. But GoT, where all the women, including, say, Osha, seem to remove most of their pubic hair, is still annoying...

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lilacsigil - 2013-08-26 04:15 (UTC) - Expand

Yep. "Threading: The Ancient Art Of Hair Removal" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwd2T8NKb0A There's no reason why this method can't be used "down there" too.

Ancient Greeks and Egyptians removed body hair so they wouldn't get (as many) lice. Male and female alike.

It depends on the type of hair a lot. From what I've seen, light-haired girls of Northern types sometimes barely have anything that can be shaved to begin with; while in people with dark thick hair and relatively pale skin it can be really, really noticeable.

Dark hair on light skin is gonna be noticeable either way, true, but I meant that on never-shaved legs the hairs would be finer, more brittle.

Nope! That's a myth. Totally, 100% untrue.

As a fair haired Northern type girl surrounded by fair haired Northern type girls, I would like to emphasise the SOMETIMES. A lot. :P

I agree with you on aesthetics, don't get me wrong--though some of them being shaved doesn't bug me quite so much as it does you. I just want a sort of realistic diversity in GOT crotches.

The issue is that mandating the women in GOT nude scenes have bushes would entail directors/producers/whoever is in charge of this sort of thing to police the actresses' crotches. A lot of people shave and wax now. I really don't want someone to be told she has to grow it out for realism purposes because the geeks want to stare at her crotch.

I realize people might be being sent to the waxing studio right now, but the other option isn't exactly better.

Edited 2013-08-25 21:06 (UTC)

... they are actors. If the writers want them to have bushy or shaved crotches, it wouldn't be that weird to ask them to shave or not shave, would it? Just like actors will grow or shave facial hair for roles, or gain or lose weight. It's part of the job.

You also get into logistics. Cercei's around for awhile and has time, sure. Tavern Hooker #47 is a short term hire.

wouldn't they just use prosthetics pubic hair? i know they used merkins on Spartacus. The actresses can do whatever they wish and wear a prosthetic of what's appropriate for the show.

Eh, maybe.

Maybe I find the obsession with the actresses' crotch status a bit weird to begin with?

I figured being liberated meant, y'know, being liberated. Not shoved into a different box of obligations where if I don't describe my characters as properly hairy I'm a traitor to the cause. Maybe I honestly don't care!

Edited 2013-08-25 22:02 (UTC)

Re: The implications of that policy can get disturbing

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Re: The implications of that policy can get disturbing

anonlulz - 2013-08-26 00:53 (UTC) - Expand

I can just see that being on someone's resume now. Or imagine a family reunion: "So what do you do for a living?" "I manage the production and application of high-budget Hollywood crotch wigs."

Edited 2013-08-25 22:03 (UTC)

Didn't Natalia Tena volunteer to grow her pubic hair out or wear a merkin but in the end, she was still clean shaven (which didn't fit the character one bit)? So wouldn't that mean that they're already policing the actresses crotches?

Well yeah, which I acknowledged (I don't know anything about that particular incident). I'm saying the policing itself is kinda skeevy.

Now I want a "Crotch Police" avatar.

Couldn't they used merkins like they used on Spartacus instead?

Fucking idiot.

Is it really so important to you that every woman looks like a prepubescent girl?

You are a fucking idiot.

Re: The implications of that policy can get disturbing

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Re: The implications of that policy can get disturbing

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Re: The implications of that policy can get disturbing

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Re: The implications of that policy can get disturbing

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Haha, oh wow

chardmonster - 2013-08-26 00:45 (UTC) - Expand

Call in the stunt bush!

Actors do all sorts of body changes for roles, growing hair seems like one the least invasive ones. Not to mention there are apparently pubic wigs that can be used if the actress in question prefers to stay the way she was (Natalia Tena talked about it when discussing Osha).

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