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Sort of inspired by the slur threads of late.

Is the word manchild a slur? Obviously I don't mean a sexist slur, but I did learn today that manchild used to be a term for... people with emotional/intellectual development issues. What they used to call "simple". not sure what the correct term is these days, but you know what I mean, right?

So yeah, manchild: slur or not?

Meh. I think words change meaning. And that these days manchild just means any adult who acts like a kid (esp a bratty one).

That is one viewpoint, and I don't necessarily disagree, but isn't that a bit like people who say "Fag" when used online isn't a homophobic slur?

People in some places call cigarettes 'fags'. Should they stop using that term as well (especially since I think the using it for cigs and before that a bundle of sticks came waaaaayyyyyy before the slur).

Re: Manchild

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(Anonymous) - 2013-09-12 03:11 (UTC) - Expand

That isn't a manchild. A manchild is a guy without developmental issues who just won't grow the fuck up and stop being a teenager even though you are fucking forty two and an area manger, you fuckwit Steve!

Steve?

Also, that's how it's used online, yes, but for a very long time it mean someone with aforementioned issues.

Finally, if you were calling me a fuckwit, then there's no need to be a prick.

p sure it was a jokey reference to something

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Key words: "used to be." If it's no longer commonly used that way, let sleeping dogs lie. We've already got plenty of slur-wank without dragging any more forgotten classics out of retirement.

Oh, I'm sure it's still used like that somewhere. You know what people are like.

I don't believe the word "Fag" can be called non-homophobic, just because it's no longer used exclusively against homosexuals.

Isn't it? I did not actually know that. Well, except that some people call cigarettes that. Is it homophobic when used in the context of smokes? That's kind of my point...context matters.

(It does sound as though "manchild" is still considered an insult either way though--I suppose we could open a whole other can of worms over what constitutes a mere insult as opposed to a slur.)

I highly doubt it.

Fag as in, a cigarette isn't a recent development at all. It's a very old term.

Yes, like nice used to mean silly. Definitions change with time and need.

No. I don't think it's used on people with disabilities, and if it is, then shame on the people who use it like that. But there are able-minded adults who behave inappropriately and should know better, and man/womanchild is a word we use to describe them. Just because a word isn't exactly nice doesn't make it a slur.

Oh, I have no problems shaming the dudes who act like "manchildren" I just wonder about the words use given how the word came into existing.

It did start off as an offensive term against disabled people, after all.

I didn't actually know that history and totally missed that when I read your original post. Interesting. Hmm.

(Anonymous) - 2013-09-12 18:39 (UTC) - Expand

No it's not.

No.

If you think "lame" or "dumb" are slurs: then yes, it is a slur.

If you think "lame" or "dumb" have lost enough of their original meaning for them to mean completely different things now: then no, it is not a slur.

I don't care which people pick as long as they are consistent and not hypocrites.

Hm. Fair point. I concur.

I don't think so. Hell, ever since I saw a blogger I follow jokingly call himself one (for still being enthusiastic about things most people stop caring about at a certain age), I don't even think it has to have negative connotations in all contexts.

Like, I'll call someone a manchild if they're acting like a whiny baby. But I also might say something like "gah, you manchild!" to a dude who just made a hilarious immature joke, or is just acting overly playful or something.

Edited 2013-09-12 00:37 (UTC)

I've always interpreted 'slur' as a very strong so I think I'd have to say no.

That being said, in contrast to everyone else here, I HAVE seen it used for people or characters with psychological or developmental disabilities far in excess of the times I've seen it used for individuals merely acting immaturely. In the absence of context, I would usually assume someone tossing the word around was trying to imply the former rather than the latter. It may not be on the level of 'retard' (an actual slur), but it's still plenty gross.

I saw your title and got so excited because I thought you meant the show. And then I read your post );

Sorry. 8(
Hell it's a free community, why don't you start a thread about the show tonight? I've never heard of the show, so I'm already interested.

Eh Don't know if it's a slur but after seeing it used by some really obnoxious toxic people who threw it out as immature namecalling in a discussion I've been irked by that word ever since. Like I know it has applications where it fits but...just ....NGHHH it annoys me so much.

This probably sounds stupid but eh...I wouldn't weep if it fell out of use.

tbqh, you haven't provided a single source, so we only have your word that "manchild used to be a term for...people with emotional/intellectual development issues." Got any citations for that? Because Google is not providing a ghost of a possible source for this assertion.