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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-21 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2454 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2454 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
My favorite heroes are the ones who aren't badass, confident, hypercompetent superhumans. Who are basically normal people doing crazy shit because they feel they have to and are terrified and doubtful and do it anyway. In other words, the kind of person like you or me, not the suave James Bond thing. I think it's more interesting.

So, just because you're not Sherlock Holmes doesn't mean you couldn't do something awesome. Find other heroes.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Die Hard 4, John McClane to Matt Farrell: "That's what makes you that guy."

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
"Find other heroes"? What a rubbish thing to say. I like the heroes I have, thanks.

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OP

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the support but sorry -- my favorite heroes are the James Bond-y ones. I fucking adore the shit out of them and never find them boring. I just have this annoying neurosis that tags along with this preference.

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[personal profile] helenadax 2013-09-21 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
In real life, most of those fictional heroes would be dead in ten minutes.
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[personal profile] sootyowl 2013-09-21 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
RDJ's Sherlock would have been blown up by now, lbr. And I love his Sherlock.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel this way about horror movies, which is part of the reason I can't watch them except once in a blue moon. I think about what I would do in that scenario, except 99% of slasher/horror flicks inevitably go the Kill 'Em All route, so I would never escape and would die a horrible, bloody death no matter what. And then I get depressed.

...so, uh, I totally feel you, in a different genre?

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I am that person. Sometimes I think I would be the Last Girl, and that's badass, but other times I'm pretty sure I'm the "investigate strange noise and die painfully in the first twenty minutes" girl. Alas!
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[personal profile] blueonblue 2013-09-21 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
One of the reasons I loved Sailor Moon so much was that Usagi was full of fail, but she still saved the world. The secret is to surround yourself with competent people.

Is there going to be a third movie? I want more RDJ Holmes even though the movies aren't very Holmes-like.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup, there's a new one in production.

Incidentally, I'm seriously excited about comparing how Watson and Holmes reunite in this movie series vs in season 3 of BBC!Sherlock. (If I had to guess, BBC will be all about how amazingly clever Sherlock's death fake was, whereas this series will be all about Watson flipping out and knocking Holmes' face in over being lied to. But both of them will be super-slashy.)

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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-09-21 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I just headcanon that in this 'verse, Watson spent all of the Hiatus moping around and writing flowery odes to Holmes' genius case-solving from the early days in exaggeratedly worshipful and self-deprecating ways because he thought the guy was dead, while the police/the government/Mycroft wouldn't let him talk abut politically sensitive shit like the plots of the two movies, and ACD wouldn't let him submit all the ultra-gay stuff to a reputable magazine. :D

Actually, that was my headcanon long before these movies even started production, because my kid-self was always disappointed that most of the action and h/c in ACD's stories only lasted a couple of sentences or happened offscreen, so...*shrugs*

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Secret 1 - Sherlock Holmes, action heroes and sidekicks

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-09-21 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
[Picture is the 2009 film "Sherlock Holmes" with Robert Downey Jr. as Sherlock Holmes and Jude Law as John Watson. Sherlock and Watson are leaning against a wall, looking to the side cautiously. Sherlock is carrying a small gun and pointing it upwards. Watson is carrying a cane.]

Even though I totally love the whole "badass hero with badass sidekick" genre, it always distresses me to watch them. Because I'm constantly distracted by imagining how I'd mess up and be incompetent and start crying and get the hero killed (or worse, annoyed) if I were a sidekick.

And how I could never be a hero, because I wouldn't have the self-confidence to lead anyone in a dangerous situation, because I'd get them killed. And I couldn't trust anyone that way, anyway.

Secret because: This is a dumb thing to feel shitty about. 90% of ALL people couldn't do it either.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
My sympathies, OP. I feel this way myself about time-travel stories. Whenever I read one, I think, "If I went back to this time period, I would be poor and completely lacking in useful life skills, and I would die in a ditch."

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh good, I'm not the only one. I have a friend who supposedly had some ancestors flee France for Scotland to get away from the first revolution, so her thing is always "Oh I would have been nobility back then" and I'm like "yeah, or have lost all your land and money and titles and had your head cut off." Except she can fire back with "and you would have either starved to death or spent your pathetically short, disease-ridden life gutting fish." And it's true. And if we're talking time travel rather than being born then, I would definitely be dead really quickly.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too.
Hell, I doubt I could even make fire without matches. And for that at least I know how it should work in theory. For almost everything else, I'd be utterly useless. And inappropriately dressed. And I wouldn't have anything they would accept as currency, and depending on how far you go back there might be a language barrier...

Unless of course it was planned time travel, which could be fun - but only if I had a guarantee that no matter where I am or what I do, I'd come back after a set period of time.

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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-09-21 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
But how about the future? Whenever I think time-travel, I always think about the future. And the future is always awesome and all my current-day problems are like "pshaw!", because since I was teeny-tiny, the future = Star Trek. Where epic cajun New Orleans restaurants still exist, but with the addition that you can teleport there from your training base every night to eat dinner.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2013-09-21 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I had a similar issue OP. When I was younger I used to like imagining myself as the sidekick to whatever character/characters I was really enjoying at the time. Even to the point where I wrote short stories in notebooks but never published them anywhere. Then I'd get sad realising how much I'd suck in reality and those characters would never in a million years pick me because I'd be incompetent.

So basically, I think what you're feeling is nothing others haven't felt before BUT...

Another comment kind of touched on this...I eventually learned fiction is fiction for a reason. Most of the cool characters we enjoy would probably die really quickly if they were real people. It's nice enough to imagine these things, that's a big part of why we consume fiction. But DO NOT compare yourself to fictional worlds and characters! The challenges we face in reality can often be a lot worse tbh because it doesn't follow a neat narrative. In a way, you're more awesome for coping with real life than a fictional hero who, by their nature and who is writing them (us) is guaranteed (usually) to have everything go their way eventually.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
ehhhhhh

Unpopular/unusual opinion time. I guess it depends on your level of exposure to situations that are high danger and high stress. Personally, I kind of like these kinds of characters precisely because they're (loosely) set in situations with comparable levels of risk that I'm used to.

TBH, I feel way more alienated from the 90% of people you're talking about. You're right, I guess most people have never almost been killed, never been regularly seriously injured or at risk of injury, and never seen someone or been in the presence of someone who's actively getting seriously or threatened.

But with all of the shit that I've been through sometimes makes it interesting to cope with situations that aren't overtly dangerous, but just vaguely dangerous. A lot of the times I'm constantly on edge looking for the danger that isn't present, or I get way more stressed out about situations that present an uncertain. While I'm not likely to get robbed waiting for the bus after dark in a sketchy neighborhood, I'm still hyper alert to the fact that I could be. It's not fun.

So yeah, I guess there's a trade off. You're sad you might never cope with the really heavy shit, and I'm sad that coping with the little shit is difficult. Life just sort of sucks.

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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-09-21 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
This is why I could never even fantasize about being a companion on Doctor Who. But otoh, those heroes would be killed in about five minutes irl, so it's more of a "hey, in this universe, people can do awesome shit and not get killed!" rather than a "hey, this guy is so much better than you that he can do awesome shit and not get killed!"

(Anonymous) 2013-09-21 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Jesus Christ, those two were so hot in that movie, especially with that Victorian clothing.

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That's okay, Guy

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
you can be the plucky comic relief :)

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
I want their sex tape

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They didn't die because they were teh sexx

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
I forgot to read your secret for about twenty seconds after staring at your bg pic. Sorry OP.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 10:45 am (UTC)(link)
Even Pippin managed to stay alive during the war. I'm sure you could too.