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Look, I like crossovers as much as anyone. I've read some really good crossovers and fusions before, and a lot of them contained popular fandoms. The problem I have with Superwholock in particular is that I have never seen any attempt ever to explain why those three shows cross, or any situation where it's even plausible.

Supernatural is fantasy, and used to be monster-of-the-week. Doctor Who could combine with that reasonably, having its own supernatural elements, but why would the consulting detectives even be there? What situation would require hunters, consultants, and someone who can bend time and space? You'd think a combination of any two would be enough, but all three? Why the fuck would they even be working together? Why would they even be on the same continent?

Basically, it all boils down to the fact that combining more than two fandoms is really hard to do, much less do well. If you choose your fandoms wisely, it can be done, but those three in particular are pretty much just "most popular fandoms right now."

Yes! This!

I suspect that some American fans think that Doctor Who and Sherlock must be joined by the hip, just because they're both on BBC America. I say that as an American, mind you.

However, I could see Sherlock (without John) ending up in the US and stumbling into something the Supernatural boys are investigating, while tracking down Moriarty's network. Three years of gallivanting who-knows-where leaves a lot of wiggle room. (Personally, I'd have no interest because -- no John.)

Nah. Sherlock would have a lot of trouble handling this, becauese the rational rules he uses to both manage his life and be a good dective just went out the window. I suspect the supernatural being real would drive him to drug use like the original.

The man forgot how the solar system works. I don't think he'd have too much trouble forgetting that the Moriarty minion he tracked down and eliminated with the interference of two uncouth farm boys, had particularly sharp teeth.

Sounds believable enough. Now, cram the Doctor in there without making the story ridiculous. That's the problem with Superwholock--no one's saying you can't combine two of the shows (I think anon above you said that, even) but that combining three makes a hot mess of unexplained weird.

But then he'd want to know why all the rational rules he uses don't apply, so he can amend his knowledge of the world.

I suspect that some American fans think that Doctor Who and Sherlock must be joined by the hip, just because they're both on BBC America. I say that as an American, mind you.

Except that Sherlock isn't on BBC America. It has never been on BBC America. I kind of wish it were, because even if we got commercials, they'd probably show it closer to it's original British broadcast and not trim a few minutes each episode to add an introduction with Alan Cumming. Sorry to go off on you, but I'm tired of reading this all the time. Sherlock is shown in the US on PBS as part of the Masterpiece Mystery line. They co-produce it.

Sorry! I wasn't lucky enough to have BBCA the last time Sherlock aired. (And I still only have it in SD. Damn cable companies.) Actually, I am sorry... I guess I'll have to hope that iTunes or something carries it, so I don't have to wait for the sanitized PBS version. Bleah.

My point still stands for the most part -- both are British productions, so they're going to be joined at the hip for most Americans.

(I can't help wonder if it's because or in spite of my growing up on a steady diet of Monty Python, that I don't conflate all things British.)

You took the words right out from my mouth.

I disagree that DW could fit reasonably. I find myself wondering how would the Doctor explain angels and demons? How would he explain the spells Sam and Dean use on a routine basis? What would Weeping angels be in relation to Heavenly angels?

Please, when crossing over a sci-fi fandom and a fantasy fandom, please decide if you're going to go with the science explanation or the magic explanation, and give a bit of a sign so those of us who keep wondering about such things can stop worrying about which mindset we're reading the fic in.

Compared to that, a thin excuse for why Sherlock and John are in America, or the Winchesters are in England is less of a worry, and it is far too easy to think that once you've come up with an excuse for that, that Sherlock, as soon as he deduces Sam and Dean do some weird shit, would want to stay around to find out more about that weird shit.

Sherlock meeting the Doctor is even easier, since you don't have to make up an excuse for why they're in the same country, since the Doctor seems to like Britain in particular.

It could probably be spun that the Supernatural is explained by Aliens. Therefore, angels are just less dangerous descendants of Weeping Angels, which God being the first of that line.

I have already seen a fic where the Weeping Angels are fallen angels.

I can easily imagine angels to be some sort of energy being that maybe the Doctor has a name and/or explanation for. I can allow some wiggle for places like Heaven, Hell and Purgatory being other dimensions that are not as cut off as DW makes out most alternate universes to be.

I just want to see fic writers put little of this sort of thought into their fics.

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