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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-28 03:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #2461 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2461 ⌋

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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-09-28 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I have never prostituted myself, but in college I did do a paper on legalizing prostitution. I spoke to several prostitutes working in the SC area (I found them off craigslist). If you would like, I can find the questions I asked them and some of their answers.

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
No. I do not trust you.
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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-09-28 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
To Copy/Paste some questions and answers. It is a challenge but not that hard of one.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't trust that you'll give a full selection. I believe you'd do what the writers of "secret diary of a call girl" do, and only cherry pick the answers and situations that make prostitution look glamorous and fun and not at all like it really is.

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
SA

Based on your reply to me a little way up, I think I can say I'm right not to trust you.

"But...women prostitutes say that as well."

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
are you the same jackass who kept trying to convince an anon who said they had been in porn that they were too stupid to realize that they had been ~*brainwashed by the patriarchy~* and kept trying to batter them into admitting they were a rape victim?

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
but you trust random people including anons to give you perfectly honest and varied answers?
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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-09-28 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Of the women I talked to, only one expressed any negative opinions about prostitution and that was in regards to illegal prostitution.

While forced prostitution is horrible, women who are in the profession of their own consent seem to think of it as a mostly positive experience. They all said they wish it was legalized so it could be regulated.

And you are off your rocker if you think prostitutes from SC that I found on Craigslist are going to be of the "secret diary of a call girl" caliber.

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

But I'm just curious, what do these women (and you) consider forced prostitution? What I mean is, often when people become a prostitute it's what they feel is their only option. I'm wondering if that would still be considered non-forced.

I hope this isn't offensive, I've tried to word it the best I could. I'm just honestly curious because of the very few prostitutes I've talked to it was never really a positive experience for them, but I recognize that's not true for everyone.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
What I mean by SDOAC was how they (and you) have habbit of presenting prostitution as a glamorous fun profession that most girls love doing and never have bad experiences.

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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] thene 2013-09-28 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
radfem science: make an inquiry, ignore any responses that do not fit with THE THEORY.

PROTECT THE THEORY AT ALL COSTS.

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-29 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Considering some of the stuff you've said not that long ago...Pot calling the kettle black much?

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-29 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
lololololol

So what I'm getting from this is that you only want to hear from sex workers who find/found it miserable, and no one else. So you already have your mind made up about how sex work is for everyone. So... why are you asking people, again? You know what you want to hear and that's the only thing you'll believe so just go on believing it. You've just said you'll disregard anything that doesn't reconfirm your preconceived beliefs.

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
You realize literally anyone here could reply to your comment with fake answers?

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but I specifically don't want to hear the usual MRA/Antifeinist rhetoric from this 'woman' who says female celebrities are like prostitutes and if you have enough money you can buy them to have sex with your friends.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
wat

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry. my bad. Maybe. Looks like I either misinterpreted what 'she' was saying, or there was some major backpedalling.

We're talking about real dolls, That person said if she was rich she'd just rent celebrities to her friends instead, I said "what the fuck" she comes back saying she just mean rent male celebrities like fassbender to 'Talk' to. Take from that what you will, but I still don't trust her.

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YOU GOT ME!

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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-09-28 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG! That is why you said the CELEBRITY THING?

Hey dumbass, I was talking about my female friends who would want to spend a day with their favorite male celebrities (in this case) David Bowie, Tom Hiddleston, and Tom Hardy.

I assumed they would probably go to dinner, maybe an amusement park. My friend who loves David Bowie would definately want to see him perform (maybe for her friends in a private concert). Tom Hiddleston friend (who is married) would just want to spend all day talking to him about how passionate he is about acting. My sister who likes Tom Hardy would just want to stare at him all day as he gushes about how much he loves animals and dogs.

You are an assuming jackass aren't you?
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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] deadtree 2013-09-28 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
damn someone has it out for you. Why've you been peeing in people's cereal??

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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] thene 2013-09-29 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I really love your inverted commas thing, yanno? Radfems all seem to operate on a No True Scots(wo)man fallacy; any woman who doesn't agree with you is immediately declared to be of suspect womanhood, BRAINWAHSED BY PATRIARCHY, etc, because you can't stand the fact that your views are completely alien to most women.
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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] ill_omened 2013-09-28 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
You see what's her face (the stridently anti-sex worker 'academic' - focused a lot on australia) is in the process of getting disbarred?

Given she was pretty much the face of anti-legalisation in certain corners of the internet I'm surprised it hasn't got more coverage.
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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-09-28 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
No I did not, do you know her name?

I really think prostitution should be legalized. Being able to regulate and monitor would go so long to helping workers. They could get an actual union, be required to carry licenses and take mandatory STD tests, be able to work in monitored/safe areas (like a brothel), etc. It would also protect the clients as well.
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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] ill_omened 2013-09-28 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
No and it's really bugging me.

Maybe Julie Bindel? But I can't find the recent article talking about her research being thrown out.
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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-09-28 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Darn!
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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] thene 2013-09-29 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Radfem + Australia made me think Sheila Jeffreys, but I can't find any recent drama on her.