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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-28 03:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #2461 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2461 ⌋

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Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
No. I do not trust you.
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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-09-28 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
To Copy/Paste some questions and answers. It is a challenge but not that hard of one.

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't trust that you'll give a full selection. I believe you'd do what the writers of "secret diary of a call girl" do, and only cherry pick the answers and situations that make prostitution look glamorous and fun and not at all like it really is.

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
SA

Based on your reply to me a little way up, I think I can say I'm right not to trust you.

"But...women prostitutes say that as well."

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
are you the same jackass who kept trying to convince an anon who said they had been in porn that they were too stupid to realize that they had been ~*brainwashed by the patriarchy~* and kept trying to batter them into admitting they were a rape victim?

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

Oh god, that was a mess
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

So obviously misogeny troll.

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-09-29 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Frankly I'm surprised she wanted to hear from guys at all. Perhaps so she could know who to hate more.

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
but you trust random people including anons to give you perfectly honest and varied answers?
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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-09-28 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Of the women I talked to, only one expressed any negative opinions about prostitution and that was in regards to illegal prostitution.

While forced prostitution is horrible, women who are in the profession of their own consent seem to think of it as a mostly positive experience. They all said they wish it was legalized so it could be regulated.

And you are off your rocker if you think prostitutes from SC that I found on Craigslist are going to be of the "secret diary of a call girl" caliber.

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

But I'm just curious, what do these women (and you) consider forced prostitution? What I mean is, often when people become a prostitute it's what they feel is their only option. I'm wondering if that would still be considered non-forced.

I hope this isn't offensive, I've tried to word it the best I could. I'm just honestly curious because of the very few prostitutes I've talked to it was never really a positive experience for them, but I recognize that's not true for everyone.
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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-09-28 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Not at all! I would consider forced prostitution to be when you didn't consent (either forced by someone else, age, mental disabilities, etc). I cannot say that working as a prostitute because it is your only option is explicitly being forced. That is quite a murky area that I would have to let someone more informed answer.

In the case of the women I spoke with, all of them were consensually prostituting themselves. They had no pimps and were all of legal age. They all got into prostitution because of some friend who was doing it. One woman was actually a veteran with a Bachelor's (or associates, I can't recall right now) in Computer Science. But she enjoyed prostitution because it was quick and easy money.

Of course these experiences will not be the same for everyone, which is why I am for legalization. If it is legalized, it can be regulated (like in legal brothels both in Nevada and across the world). Women who are forced can be found and protected. They can also be protected from clients, other workers, and STDs.

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Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
What I mean by SDOAC was how they (and you) have habbit of presenting prostitution as a glamorous fun profession that most girls love doing and never have bad experiences.

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-29 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
how they (and you) have habbit of presenting prostitution...

[citation needed]
thene: Happy Ponyo looking up from the seabed (Default)

Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] thene 2013-09-28 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
radfem science: make an inquiry, ignore any responses that do not fit with THE THEORY.

PROTECT THE THEORY AT ALL COSTS.

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-29 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Considering some of the stuff you've said not that long ago...Pot calling the kettle black much?

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-29 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
lololololol

So what I'm getting from this is that you only want to hear from sex workers who find/found it miserable, and no one else. So you already have your mind made up about how sex work is for everyone. So... why are you asking people, again? You know what you want to hear and that's the only thing you'll believe so just go on believing it. You've just said you'll disregard anything that doesn't reconfirm your preconceived beliefs.

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
You realize literally anyone here could reply to your comment with fake answers?

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but I specifically don't want to hear the usual MRA/Antifeinist rhetoric from this 'woman' who says female celebrities are like prostitutes and if you have enough money you can buy them to have sex with your friends.

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
wat

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry. my bad. Maybe. Looks like I either misinterpreted what 'she' was saying, or there was some major backpedalling.

We're talking about real dolls, That person said if she was rich she'd just rent celebrities to her friends instead, I said "what the fuck" she comes back saying she just mean rent male celebrities like fassbender to 'Talk' to. Take from that what you will, but I still don't trust her.

Re: Prostitution

(Anonymous) 2013-09-28 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I guess you shouldn't give her your social security number then.

But seriously, what the fuck? Kaijunscendre might be one of the most rational people on F!S, and the fact that you don't trust her to answer your question...might be the most ridiculous thing I've heard all day. It also makes you look like a fool.

So. Take from that what you will.

Re: Prostitution

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YOU GOT ME!

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WHAT

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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-09-28 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG! That is why you said the CELEBRITY THING?

Hey dumbass, I was talking about my female friends who would want to spend a day with their favorite male celebrities (in this case) David Bowie, Tom Hiddleston, and Tom Hardy.

I assumed they would probably go to dinner, maybe an amusement park. My friend who loves David Bowie would definately want to see him perform (maybe for her friends in a private concert). Tom Hiddleston friend (who is married) would just want to spend all day talking to him about how passionate he is about acting. My sister who likes Tom Hardy would just want to stare at him all day as he gushes about how much he loves animals and dogs.

You are an assuming jackass aren't you?
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Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] deadtree 2013-09-28 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
damn someone has it out for you. Why've you been peeing in people's cereal??
kaijinscendre: (Default)

Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-09-29 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I am hoping she will become my arch-nemesis! She will be the Joker to my Batman. Voldemort to my Harry Potter. Burger King to my McDonalds. Oh happy day!

Re: Prostitution

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thene: Happy Ponyo looking up from the seabed (Default)

Re: Prostitution

[personal profile] thene 2013-09-29 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I really love your inverted commas thing, yanno? Radfems all seem to operate on a No True Scots(wo)man fallacy; any woman who doesn't agree with you is immediately declared to be of suspect womanhood, BRAINWAHSED BY PATRIARCHY, etc, because you can't stand the fact that your views are completely alien to most women.