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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-13 03:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #2476 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I do too. It makes sense. At most 95% of the population is heterosexual (at least 90%). If you meet someone on the street, they are most likely going to be heterosexual.

Also, I hate the new thing where "He sleeps with only women, has only shown attraction to women, and has shown no interest in men." GUYS HE IS TOTALLY BI AND IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE YOU ARE HOMOPHOBIC!!!!

(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah but tumblr gonna tumblr, i guess

(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
jesus, people are still fighting about that?

/out of fandom too long

(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Dean Winchester is totally bi. Sure, he has never actually showed any sexual interest in men (and has said several times he isn't gay), but Tumblr insists otherwise.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't care about tumblr or the SPN fandom (I watch the show, but that's it), but after Dr. Sexy I do think Dean is bi and nothing has convinced me otherwise.

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, just because Tony Stark only sleeps with women and has only ever shown interest in women doesn't mean anything! in that one alternate universe where he was a woman he married Steve Rogers, so obviously all he needs is to have his eyes open to the possibility of men!!1!!!

(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Which technically (since he was a woman in that verse marrying a man) would make him still heterosexual.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-16 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
Poor baby, you must be so sad that your het ship isn't the most popular in fandom.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Came here to say this.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
As a gay person I'm pretty sick of people assuming I'm straight just because most people are. Why can't you just assume that anything is possible? I guess I don't really give a fuck if it's your headcanon for characters, as long as you don't get offended at the mere suggestion that someone might be gay, or go around ranting that it's not possible.

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Why do I assume? Because statistically you be straight. Generally sexuality doesn't come up in casual conversation. But if someone walked up to me and asked, "What do you think my sexuality is?" I am going to say straight. Because 9.5 out of 10 times I would be correct.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

On leading questions and bias: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA

Alternately, from Mark Twain/Benjamin Disraeli: "Lies, damned lies, and statistics!"

Statistics don't mean jack shit unless the methods and context of their gathering is unbiased. I think you've just spectacularly illustrated that at present the context surrounding questions of sexuality is anything but.

'Statistically' I be straight. In reality, I'm asexual, and I wouldn't presume to guess what anyone else might be.

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

Well fuck you too. I prefer people didn't make assumptions about my sexuality. If it's not brought up it's not your business.

And honestly 1 out of every 20 people you know is not actually a small number.

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT - But see, what I generally assume is "I don't know what they are, they could be anything, it's none of my business unless they tell me." I don't really get why you can't do that. Do you just go around looking at people and consciously say "Yes, all of these people are heterosexual, if they tell me they are not I will be very surprised because it goes against statistics!"? I'm honestly asking that because it seems like a strange way to think, to me.

And maybe you don't notice it in conversations, but I do. All the time. "I'm pretty sure that person is gay because [lists all the stereotypes]." "Omg that girl over there is a lesbian!", "All these people keep coming out to me and I totally support their rights but ew I'm sure never hugging them again."[Generic comment about the boyfriend or husband the person assumes I have].", etc. At best it comes off as rude, at worst it makes me think that the person would potentially be hostile if I came out to them.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Because you are a minority. Deal with it.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
this minority is not as small as you seem to think it is

psychological study suggests that more and more "straight" people are also capable of being incidentally bisexual.

also, you are statistically chinese. jsyk
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(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Because people assume. It's not actually possible for people to not make assumptions, because the human brain is not capable of ranking all possibilities for all human traits equally. Those are the breaks.
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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2013-10-13 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Because interpreting characters as bi or gay (especially if they've only been heterosexual relationships) is offensive to their character and shows you aren't a good fan. (Someone told me this. Here, actually)

wtf

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Were they serious??

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
this, this, this
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-10-14 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Unless you wear a T-shirt that says "I'm gay! Stop presuming I'm straight!" or are the biggest camp-gay in the world*, I'm not going to guess you are gay just by looking at you on the street.

*Even then I could wonder if you're camp straight.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-13 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
It may be true about 90% of the population but I have a really hard time buying that we can know this for sure. If society was way more open to experimenting, I feel like a shit-ton more people would identify as bi or gay. Studies account for closeted people supposedly, but they can't really account for the oblivious (and depending on how your attraction operates it's sometimes possible to be oblivious), and when you bring in the amount of respect you should have for whatever somebody chooses to label him or herself, it's all just hella complicated.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I loathe the "you could be oblivious as to you're gay-bi-ness!" argument. Um, no. It doesn't work like that. You know when it happens.

And that "obliviousness" argument creates some ugly entitlement issues in the populations that believes it.

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
bisex is totes the magic word
when in doubt or when canon doesn't support your ship: BISEX!
some people must believe that being bi is a politically correct gay/straight other than a sexual orientation.