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Comments

[feotakahari]

Do we even have anyone on FS who makes that kind of argument? (I think we have some self-diagnosed Aspies, but I've never seen them be particularly rude about it.)

[(Anonymous)]

lol about three or four years ago, we did. That ship sailed long ago, though

[bringreligiontothewamwams]

If you self diagnosed, then you have assburgers not the diagnosis formerly known as aspergers. I guarantee the self-diagnosed guys are 100% full of shit, and they are being rude to genuine auties by trying to co-opt a very real mental disability as an excuse for being an ass.

[(Anonymous)]

jesus fuck what is wrong with you in this thread. you need to breathe.

[bringreligiontothewamwams]

And the smelly fake aspies need to stop.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I think they're a troll. A bit like Noodly, only more offensive.

[(Anonymous)]

Generally I find them a lot less offensive than Noodles or Chard.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Maybe I've grown used to Noodle and Chard's antics but have yet to adjust to Bring.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I think the difference is Bring is obviously a troll 24/7 while sometimes Noodly and Chard will act like decent human beings, then do a 180 into trollville

[nyxelestia]

Bring is being a little rude, but does have a point. I know actual aspies, and people who claim to have Asperger's and try to use it and "play the aspie card" so to speak, and yet only ever use it to act like an asshole and never want to go to an actual doctor if they can.

Ironic coming from me in many ways, but I can see why someone would be frustrated by this sort of thing.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Yeah, the phrasing feel rude, but the message is apt.

It's one of the reason I don't often admit to having (mild) Aspergers myself. I lived 25 years before I was diagnosed, without having to make excuses for being me. I don't need to use the convenient name given to certain traits I have as an excuse for being me.

[feotakahari]

The standard argument I've heard is that getting a diagnosis is really, really freaking expensive.

(Full disclosure: I do not have Asperger's. I've been tested four times, because authority figures kept thinking I had it, and apparently my parents were willing to throw that much money down the drain.)

[(Anonymous)]

And having a diagnosis itself isn't a guarantee either, although it's loads more rare. A few parents will as many people as necessary to get a diagnosis and the autism spectrum diagnoses have really increased in the past decade or so. I know the later could be attributed to multiple things like increased awareness or an actual increase in people who have it, but it's also probable that some people have been misdiagnosed.

[bringreligiontothewamwams]

The argument is bullshit though, it isn't a hard or expensive diagnosis to get, even for USaliens. It can be really difficult for an Assburger to drag their worthless ass off the couch away from the xbox and down to the doctor. It can be really hard for an assburger to do that because they'd know they probably wouldn't get their get out of being called for being a douche card diagnosis if they did. So I suppose it is just 2HArD!! for them to see a doctor. Also, good for on coming up normal.

[nyxelestia]

...okay, two sides to this.

On one hand, yes, Assburgers are usually just avoiding going to a doctor because they don't want to be called out on their bullshit.

On the other hand, going to a doctor for ANY medical condition can be quite arduous for Americans. I have great insurance and went to see a doctor for two visits that lasted less than an hour total for a mild asthma issue with no tests or blood draws, and even got two inhalers for free, and I'm still paying hundreds of dollars for that. And that is a PHYSICAL issue, things related to neurological disorders and mental health are notoriously hard to get help for.

I've considered trying to get tested for Autism, so that my mother and my aspie friends will stop suggesting that I have it when I'm like 80-90% sure I don't, but the only way to get such a test would involving using the family health insurance, and there are enough divisions and issues in my family that having to roll my eyes and tell people to stop making such suggestions on a monthly basis is a lot easier than getting results that the entire family would know about, whatever those results say. (And the only way I COULD get a test without my family knowing about it...I don't trust their medical confidentiality in other areas, like fuck I'm trusting them with this.) And while assburgers generally don't fall into this category, there are a variety of reasons (besides sex/STD/pregnancy related issues) that people may want to keep medical issues away from their families, and thus don't get any care even if their family has insurance (which isn't always the case, at least for now).

[(Anonymous)]

You are one of the worst people I've ever encountered.

[bringreligiontothewamwams]

You need to meet more people. Don't get me wrong, I am flattered by the compliment, but as hard as I try I still cannot top the unthinking feculent pit of prejudice that is your average person. I have to put effort into this, most people can be disgusting without even trying. So you need just to step outside for a while, pigfucker.

+1 Anon currently testing for a diagnosis

[(Anonymous)]

*raises a hand*

As someone who was told by a few friends to see a doctor after avoiding them for around 10 years (misdiagnosis of bipolar and feeling like everything people tried to fix about me was 'very off'), I can tell you that now that I'm paying for it out of my own pocket, it's super freaking expensive and I hate that part of it. I am spending $200+ a month, and that's WITH insurance, to see a neurologist, therapist, and psychiatrist/psychologist.

Personally, I find it a relief that the mood swings I have are not me going crazy or something I just can't explain (talking myself in circles is not only frustrating, but has really hurt my friendships and self esteem). I'm very happy to have help in seeing how I can handle the stress in my life and learn better skills. I don't like having to devote so much time or money to it, but I could do without the criticisms over what it's like or whether I actually want to change. There are a lot of people who don't want to, but then there are also ones who do, and not everyone is in the position to afford it. I went to 3 different doctors before I found one I could afford to keep up with, and as a result I'm barely floating above debt. I'm just grateful it's something I'm capable of doing.

Re: +1 Anon currently testing for a diagnosis

[reanimatrix]

Is being misdiagnosed as bipolar very common for autistic people? I'm bipolar supposedly but it's never felt right. >_> I have anger issues (like, I get irrationally angry over stupid things-- I have an intense hatred of Game of Thrones for example and I don't know why but it just makes me really angry!) and when I get really excited about rp or reading or writing something I run around the house bouncing and thinking about the scenario/pretending in my head and I can't help it. I was on anti-psychotics for bipolar disorder but they just really sucked out all my personality and my creativity and made me really kind of depressed, so I don't know.

I'm just really curious because like I said, I can see bipolar aspects in myself but there's parts that don't fit. My moods are -too- irrational for example, like I don't have long periods of depressions and long periods of mania, I go back and forth in the same day, sometimes within hours.

Re: +1 Anon currently testing for a diagnosis

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it actually is very common, especially with women. That sounds a lot like me... I tend to get really obsessed with things, but when I have mood swings, I can be crying my eyes out and then something simple can cheer me up, or if the problem is worked out, I'm suddenly just fine. It's caused a lot of stress. I get PISSED at TV shows especially when something suddenly changes or I feel like it's making me insecure about myself for some reason (Someone compared me to Sam from Supernatural, and when I tried to correct them but they wouldn't hear me out, I slammed my laptop shut and just walked out on them. ...not the best of my reactions.)

Everyone is different, but my doctor told me that a lot of the people he sees were misdiagnosed as bipolar. Right now I'm on anti-anxiety medicine, and that along with learning to recognize that I may not like things, but that I don't have to act on it, has helped me deal a lot. I would try to find someone and get a second opinion if you can, especially if you can find a doctor that specializes in Aspergers. They will know the difference.

[(Anonymous)]

Or, ya know, they don't have health insurance.

[bringreligiontothewamwams]

well they'll just have to wait until the aca kicks in and there is no excuse for being an asshole

bet there is no upkick in diagnosis though when it does and the assburgers come up with a fresh excuse

[(Anonymous)]

Gotta love the irony of you calling these people assholes while you're being quite an asshole yourself here. I suppose in your mind it's fine to be an asshole so long as you don't try and link it to a mental illness?

[bringreligiontothewamwams]

Nothing wrong with asshole as a lifestyle choice. Men stormed the beaches of Normandy for my right to be an asshole if I choose to be. Now adopting asshole as a lifestyle choice, but blaming it on an illness you don't have which just makes life harder for those with that condition who generally do try and not be assholes, that is reprehensible. I trust you see the difference, asshole.