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Do you have any pet peeves that apply to a specific fandom? For example, I don't mean something like "I hate it when asshole characters are woobified" but rather "I hate it when Spike is woobified over his relationship with Buffy" or something similar with another specific thing abou another specific show/book/whatever.

I hate when Kathy Stabler is turned into a villain in order to pave the way for E/O in the SVU fandom. It's completely OOC and, frankly, just lazy writing.

I hated when people would villainize Weir in SGA fics. She wasn't perfect but she wasn't a raging bitch like I saw often in a lot of McShep fic.

Yes!

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When people actually believe Jade Curtiss is an old man and treat him as such. The dude is 35 and an asshole. He just doesn't want to do extra work. How do these people not see this?

He's my favorite character in that game so it's disappointing to come across fanwork of him that I want to enjoy, only to learn it's... weird.

Loki being drawn or written as some tiny little waif next to Thor's massive bulk, Thor is built but he doesn't tower over Loki, nor does he have that much more bulk on the dude.

I don't know if this counts, but Thief fans have completely lost the plot in a bit of a unique way -- they're basically a bunch of frightened, threatened neo-Luddites who haven't entered the 21st century and refuse to. I think at least a couple are still using Netscape Navigator, that's how backwards these people are. They hate all this newfangled technology and purpousely maintain ancient or otherwise low-end computers just to maintain that "perfect Thief experience" and when they're not doing that they're wailing and gnashing their teeth at EVERY PIECE OF NEWS that comes out of Square-Enix or Eidos Montreal. If E-M came out and said "we're making the game 100% exactly like the original Thief, just for you" they'd complain about that too. To make matters worse, they're very insular, but like to venture out of their comfort zones to shitpost elsewhere, and then when they get their inevitable drubbing complain that we're all "CoD fans" and traitors and whatever.

I hate these people and wish they'd all get hit by a bus. There's nothing like having a woman in her 40s tell me I couldn't possibly have played Thief 1 and 2 because I liked the third. I expect that from 20-something neckbeards, not a grown middle-aged woman who should know better.

When no one in the Pacific Rim universe has any problem with incest, even when it's underaged father-son.

In Man from Uncle fic, when Illya is suddenly and for no apparent reason goes from being a BAMF to being a meek and nervous swooning submissive; the Illya/Napoleon dynamic is only interesting when they're both the strong and powerful, and on an equal footing. Not only would Illya never behave this way, but Napoleon wouldn't be interested in anybody who behaved this way - he likes his women strong, interesting and dangerous, his preferences in men would be the same.

Woobified Illya is such a crime against his characterization. Especially if, despite being a weeping, sighing, fainting shadow of his canon self, he's STILL described in the same damn fic as the "Ice King" or some other crazy stupid nickname.

(... why yes, sometimes I do read terrible fic and let it annoy me; I probably shouldn't, but there's ever so little MUNCLE fic out there and sometimes instead of re-reading the 10% worth spying for, I'll try something else and spend my time alternately fuming at the badfic and mentally re-editing it to something worthwhile.)

In Harry Potter, when authors feel the need to take FOREVER to explain why certain characters aren't in their fic. For god's sake, it's fanfic - just describe the constellation your story needs and stop insisting on taking the first chapter to describe crap like who went on to study in what stupid university and is therefore no longer in Harry's life when it's not going to be relevant AT ALL for the rest of the story. A line or two would be fine. a paragraph even. But even that is just hand-waving or lampshading and really, really unnecessary.

On a related note, if the dynamic is other than in canon, nobody wants to read the five paragraphs detailing how everybody who isn't on a first name basis in canon decides to deign to use first names with each other.

When Natasha basically bitch-slaps Steve every time he says 'ma'am' or holds a door for her.

When Tony is a complete and utter babbling, drunken wreck who can't even tie his own shoes.

When Dean does anything like binge/purge or cutting, and hides alone listening to emo music, crying.

When Sam hates Dean and teams up with John to rip him to shreds.

When Harry is made into a huge-eyed woobie who trembles and cries and then knows ALL THE MAGIC without even studying.

When, holy gods, Derek Hale ditto, except without magic.

When Thor is dumb as rocks, and Clint is a close second, and Steve is a fumbling virgin who blushes at the sight of an ankle.

Don't get me started on the Mass Effect fandom.

Destroy apologists. Calling Ashley a racist. Saying the quarians deserve to die, or that destroying the geth doesn't matter because they're "just machines." People who claim one particular route or choice is "canon" (like saying "Liara is the canon romance" or "Destroy is the canon ending" just stopppp)

There's some common terrible characterizations as well - thankfully my favorites are too minor to attract much of that, but...

Ffffffff at People calling Liara (or anyone, but especially Liara) the canon romance that makes me rage SO MUCH MORE than people calling any endings 'canon.' (That said, if any of them must be canon, please let it not be Synthesis. Ugh.)

I agree with so much of this. Also, this probably falls into the 'bad characterization' category, but people making Shepard - any Shepard - sound like a teenager. Grates my nerves.

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In my Harry Potter fandom days, I used to hate Actually a Pureblood!Hermione, MWPP fic without Peter Pettigrew, and authors who made excuses for the way Snape always treated Neville Longbottom.

Also, Hufflepuff!Fudge. I mean, I can see Fudge as a certain kind of Hufflepuff--the backbench politician who pays his dues, loyally supports the right people, does all the dirty work without complaint, and is content to stay in the background until the moment comes to claim his reward. But that wasn't their reasoning for putting him in Hufflepuff.

Haha, I preferred MWPP fic without Peter Pettigrew.

I can see Fudge as a "Hufflepuff gone wrong" too, same with how I see Percy as a "Gryffindor gone wrong" - technically there's nothing uncharacteristic of those Houses in them, they just manifest in bad ways. But having Fudge be a Hufflepuff because "lol Hufflepuffs are losers" is irksome.

I never got fics that ignored Peter. Beyond the fact that they didn't know how he'd turn out, isn't he kind of essential to their whole story?

MWPP fic without Peter is one of the very few things that still gets me pissed off at Harry Potter fandom (the vast majority of HP fandom has long ago hit some kind of critical mass where my brain stopped responding to the sheer volume of wankbait and I passed into that much-longed-for genial zen state of IDGAF bliss).

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I don't usually hate on particular pairings but I really don't like Ashley/Wrex in Mass Effect fandom. she TRIED TO KILL HIM FFS. >:C

I have a general dislike for canon nazi shippers, particularly ones who are arguing against slash, but the thing that caused it was fairly fandom specific.

90% of the Cybertronians ever shown in most of Transformers are mechs - i.e. male-seeming. Only one in ten Cybertronians were ever female-looking and acting.

The slash side of the fandom takes that at face value, supposing that the numbers of femmes are extremely low, and thus supposing that mech/mech relationships are a total non-issue. On the meta side, it also makes the idea of high numbers of mech/femme relationships seem very infrequent.

But canon shippers still think m/f should be all that happens, even in G1 (cartoon-verse), where femmes were considered extinct until Elita-1's group (of FIVE femmes) was found. That's a hell of a lot of mechs who will never have romantic opportunities if m/f is the only way acceptable (and this is in a 'verse where the canon way of making new Cybertronians is to build a body and have them "brought to life" by some mcguffin).

I am glad I haven't run into any rabid het shippers since I got into The Hobbit, as unlike Transformers, a race with a gender imbalance is totally canon in the section I am now shipping in, instead of just implied in most places. Dwarves only have one third of their population female, and not all of them will marry, and Dwarves have a very strong One True Love belief too (I think it was very much a thing of Tolkien's).

I know Tolkien canon also says a lot of Dwarves get lost in their craft, but even so, that does not mean it is totally unreasonable to accept that maybe there's room for male/male relationships being more acceptable for them.

But then I'm a slasher, and I don't really give a shit about all those "respect the canon!" arguments. At least not when it gets in the way of having my shippy fun.

"Rarity MUST put out for Spike or she's AN UPPITY BITCH!!"

.....Bronies? He's a BABY. DRAGON. He's of teh equivalent age of the Cutie MArk Crusaders, aka 5-7, KINDERGARTNERS/1ST GRADERS.

EW

I'm not even in the MCU fandom, but dumb!Thor and clueless Steve. I'm not even a fan of Steve and that pisses me off.

Others I'm blanking on....

OH.

Just cause he flirted with her and she said he makes her laugh does NOT automatically mean that Heath and Abbey are now dating (Monster High). In fact, I HATE that pairing and it's mainly due to Heath being a creeper and hitting on anything with boobs (most recent webisode had him ruining the ghouls art projects cause he was vain and stupid enough to volunteer to be a model for their art class and he had a cold. cue him sneezing out fire and setting of the sprinklers/setting fire to their projects, etc. asshole). B/ And as much as I like some opposites attract pairs, I hate this one.

/end rant

99.9% of Hannibal fic. I just think the canon and characters are way too complicated and layered for most of these writers. The most reliable predictor of badfic is the use of "William" instead of Will. Hannibal's "thin lips," too, there are several people on AO3 now who keep repeating that one. It's one of the most mysterious pieces of fanon I've ever seen, lol.

Destiel shippers heaping abuse on Anna Milton for daring to sleep with Dean and touch the Holy Handprint. Actually about 90% of fandom treatment of Anna, period.

Shego gets pregnant and suddenly renounces evil.

I hate it when fans translate Megaman X's kindess and pacifism as 'spineless uke' or 'naive idiot' or that he needs Zero to bail him out. Realising that centuries of war can't be fixed with MORE WAR does not make you a coward dammit!

I hate it so fucking much when people call Beauty and the Beast 'stockholm syndrome the movie'. Did you even fucking pay attention? Did you not notice how it was the BEAST who changed, not Belle, because she refused to take his shit? Did you not notice the obvious paralells between Beast and Gaston and the transformations they go through? Don't analyse movies if you're too thick to understand basic symbolism and character development.

I hate how apparently most of the female characters in Corpse Party are frigid bitches because they don't return romantic feelings, even though they're trapped in a hell dimension and have much more important things to worry about. And how one of the few utterly monsterous characters is given endless sympathy from fangirls because he's hot and he had a split-second of very misguided pity for a little girl HE WAS ABOUT TO MURDER.

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