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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-24 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2579 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
"sometimes white dominated societies exist for a reason".

What are you even saying there? I'm legitly asking, BTW.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Not OP, but a reason could be

"takes place in medieval Europe" or something, which I think is a legitimate reason not to get panties in a twist.

That being said, Attack on Titan is a futuristic society so I'm not sure why everyone would be so white - even future Europe has got to have lots of races represented - but whatevs. I like the series but I found the whole "Mikasa is the last Asian!" to be Japanese back-patting about how special they are. And considering there are a ton of Asians all over the world, it's weird how one race could be wiped out like that. Apparently black people weren't even lucky enough to have one survivor. lol

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
It's not really futuristic in the sense you'd usually think, is it? Rather, it's a society that became isolated sometime in the Middle Ages (or something) and has kept growing smaller and more isolated since. Mikasa is only the last Asian in that community. There could still be other communities out in the world at large for all the characters know.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
There's actually quite a bit of proof that there were multiple races in Europe since Roman times, actually.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

but that's not what I was justifying. Europe was still a "white dominated society" - whether or not there were some non-white people there.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
It only became a white-dominated society once chattel slavery began to take place. ayrt was right. For example, Roman empire was so successful because they basically took soldiers from everywhere.

I know this place is very anti-SJW and whatever (actually, so am I), but medievalpoc does a good job in showing that "race" as we know it today is quite a modern concept, and all-white Europe is a myth.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
No one said that other races were wiped out. The people inside the walls believe them to be the last survivors of humanity, so they assume that everyone else outside the walls are dead. But this is just bullshit, we don't know anything about the outside world. Maybe the titans only appeared in Europe, or maybe people in other continents have their own walls.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Futuristic?
Their only advanced technology is the gear used by the army, period.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say the technology used to turn humans into titans is pretty advanced too. But maybe that's just me.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I was under the impression that due to being shoved back behind walls, technology got mega downgraded. since they have to stay in the walls, they can't get all the resources they need for whatever, or can't justify making it. Most of their technology is premodern, but there is random modern and/or futuristic stuff (like titan potion). I could be totally reading this wrong, though.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
... "futuristic" doesn't necessarily mean "advanced technology".

It takes place in the future. Bad things happened. Society regressed.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I found the whole "Mikasa is the last Asian!" to be Japanese back-patting

Oh God, yes. If there were ever to be a ridiculous situation where there was literally only one Asian person left in the (known) world, and for them to end up in a place on the European continent, it would be very statistically unlikely that they would be Japanese. They'd most likely be from China or India, followed by a few dozen other Asian countries before JAPAN.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
NA

I agree, it was really annoying to have Mikasa be the last Asian (Japanese).

We Asians sprout like bunnies, just ask the Chinese :p

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
For all we know Titans could be an Euro-Asian issue, so everyone in Africa, America, Australia and many island around the world are enjoying their lives Titan-free.
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[personal profile] morieris 2014-01-25 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Same here...because brown people can live in Europe too...? mind I am not familiar with this show very much (If Mikasa is the only 'asian' person...what about this Hanji I've been hearing about? That doesn't sound like a European name?)

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Actually her name is Zoe. Hange Zoe.
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[personal profile] morieris 2014-01-25 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, well, never mind me.

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*their name

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Hanji is actually supposed to be spelled Hange, which is German or Dutch or something.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
No shit, and a few brown people exist in Japan but you never see people yell at non-white countries for not being as diverse as America in their shows.
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[personal profile] morieris 2014-01-25 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
mind I am not familiar with this show very much right after that, meaning "maybe there's a reason, but I don't pay attention to this show."

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
Oh sure, they can. But in the immense numbers that SJWs think they do? Nope.

Not to mention that the setting of AOT is very isolated because of a goddamn 50-foot-wall around the whole country. Not much migration going on.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
Not OP

Sometimes, white-dominated societies develop for reasons which make sense (or made sense at the time) and are realistic.

Case #1 - Denmark. White people in constant control of the same territory for centuries, a society that not a lot of POCs migrate into (for whatever reason). Neighboring countries full of white people, most immigrants also white.

Case #2 - select Early American settlements, select 20th-century American suburbs. White people from insular communities move across the ocean to form more-insular communities. Prejudice, fear, economics, ignorance, and/or religious intolerance keep POC members out.

Case #3 - Apartheid-era South Africa, pre-Civil War American South. A white minority controls the society, POCs are marginalized.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
Because having a society with multiple races living in it needs multiple things;

1. For that society to not be isolated and in a location that people can freely travel to.

2. For people to have the means for such long-distance travel.

3. To have a reason for those far-away people to actually want to live there.

Historically, many cultural hubs were in locations that were along major trading lines, were the capitals of empires spanning multiple cultures, or were otherwise important places. I have no problem with, say, an ancient Rome-like society having multiple races.

But for a very long time in human history lots of places had very limited contact with anyone BUT their immediate neighbours. So I really doubt that some tiny mountain town in Europe would be anything but 99% white.