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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-03 06:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2589 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-02-03 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I just like it more if it pisses off the SJWs and tumblr
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

[personal profile] iceyred 2014-02-04 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Amen.

I'm so sick of the word 'problematic.' It's sounds so condescending and bitchy. If somebody thinks something is problematic then they can Sierra Tango Foxtrot Uniform and make something better.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-02-04 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
isn't this getting old yet?
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2014-02-03 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Well aren't you edgy?

Good for you and 95% of the world.

Do you want a cookie or a medal or???

(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
There's nothing edgy about OP.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
How is the OP supposed to be "edgy"?
How did you come to this conclusion?
I don't even... what.

Let's throw out some more random buzzwords that might vaguely sound insulting, even if they don't actually apply in this situation:

God, the OP is such a fedora-wearing fake geek girl brony mouthbreather weeaboo. How dare they, and stuff.
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+1000

[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2014-02-04 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
I love how people think that being detached makes them better people. Objectivity is not a virtue.

I mean, neither is passion, but at least if you're passionate, you can squee with other passionate people, and that's at least half the fun of being in a fandom.
Edited 2014-02-04 02:00 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
IAWTC. It's okay to realize the media you enjoy isn't perfect. It also doesn't mean it's worthless.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
OP thinks they're edgy in fandom. I so tuff! I so real! I just don't give a shit yeah yeah!

Yaaaaaawn.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
The sad thing is I think OP is trying to play the victim, rather than be edgy.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Me too, friend.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I don't care if something I like is problematic, but I don't like just blindly watching a thing either. I think there's a middle ground where you can acknowledge and admit that it's problematic and still enjoy it.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
+1

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2014-02-04 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
We critique because we love it. The truly awful stuff gets shuffled to the bottom of the pile without comment.

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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-02-04 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Do you really not understand that you're in the majority on this?

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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-02-04 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Hear hear.

Ultimately I watch something for the plot, and not because it correctly represents XYZ or whatever.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Are you trying to claim the moral high ground? Do you think as long as you aren't personally responsible for creating racist content then there's nothing questionable about why you enjoy it or excuse it?


BTW this is not as edgy as you think it is. Try acknowledging your fave is problematic and only liking it for the problematic parts or something.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
The problem is what's "problematic" is highly subjective. I don't like watching shows I think are sexist/racist/homophobic/whatever, because that's really offputting and unpleasant to me. But there are a lot of shows that I think are perfectly fine (or even positive representations) that are problematic to others.

This, like all other social justice issues, is not nearly as black and white as SJWs would have you believe. Just because someone screams "PROBLEMATIC!" about something you like doesn't make it objectively true.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
The very word "problematic" can go step on a thousand tiny microaggression legos. I don't give a shit.

+1

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[personal profile] lex_antonia 2014-02-04 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Whatever. For some people, discussing the cultural context of the things they like is half the fun.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
I like you, OP.

My fandom made me hate that term.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I just don't really give a shit, at the end of the day. I'm fine listening to criticisms of the things I like, but expecting me to get some kind of "moral high-ground" feeling for acknowledging issues, or to even care to go looking for them, is just not something that I'm going to waste my time doing.

I watch things for personal enjoyment, not for picking apart and whining about so I get a morality high.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-04 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
Liking something that you know is shitty like a rape-y pairing and then plugging your ears and thinking it's the most beautiful shit since Ulysses is pretty horrible.

Liking something that you know is shitty, understanding why it is shitty and making no apologies for it is fine.

How do people not understand this. You are allowed to be a fan of problematic things.

http://www.socialjusticeleague.net/2011/09/how-to-be-a-fan-of-problematic-things/

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kryptoncat: Sokka is yelling "To the library!" That was an awesome episode. (READING IS BASICALLY AWESOME YOU SEE)

[personal profile] kryptoncat 2014-02-04 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
"Ignorance is bliss."

But that doesn't mean ignorance is right.

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