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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-01 03:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2615 ]


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OP here

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
sorry

what I meant was the people talking about how he was just asking her that to see if she was home alone and he was clearly a creepy rapist, not just a dude with terrible game

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
If it happened to me I'd see it as someone being unintentionally creepy due to social skill failure, not actually creepy as in dangerous

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2014-03-02 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Same. If he wasn't giving off any other questionable vibes, I'd probably just assume he was trying to flirt and failing terribly at it.
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: OP here

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-03-01 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't automatically assume "oh noes must be rapist", but I *would* find it creepy and unprofessional (and condescending). I'd probably say "excuse me" or give him a look before signing the receipt and getting my pizza. And the pizza would be a priority, because pizza.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2014-03-02 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, I see. I wouldn't automatically assume he was a rapist, but I'd be on my guard. But that probably has more to do with being raised in a city with a considerable crime rate more than anything else.
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

Re: OP here

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-03-01 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay see you really gotta specificy if it's what's in the comments or not. People don't know this and usually if you link something will think you are talking about that thing unless you specify.
applemagpie: (cass)

Re: OP here

[personal profile] applemagpie 2014-03-01 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, anyone who would think a line like "little girl, are your parents home?" is a good pick up line, deserves to be slotted into the creep category

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2014-03-02 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
This.
darkmanifest: (Default)

Re: OP here

[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-03-01 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Seems like it's a creepy way to flirt - "little girl", really? - hence why it's such terrible game. Not that he was likely to jump her anything, but a person can be harmless and still deeply unamusing.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
See, this is why when you start a discussion you have to actually, you know, say what it is you want to discuss. Don't just send people to a link and say "what do you think?" assuming they'll be on the same page as you.
tasogare_n_hime: (Default)

Re: OP here

[personal profile] tasogare_n_hime 2014-03-01 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
It's really hard to say just seeing it written. My reaction would depend on how the guy sounded while saying it. I can say, I would not be pleasant to deal with no matter how it was said.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, this is apparently a difficult thing for some people (men) to get their heads around, but women are often taught to think the worst case scenario when it comes to creepy guys. Guy following you into the dark parking lot? Could be a rapist, get your mace/keys/knife out just in case! Guy making a really creepy comment when delivering your pizza? Shut the door and lock all windows just in case! Man stopping in a car and offering you a ride home? Do not get in the car he will probably rape and murder you!

Like, it's not that I would really think 100% these dudes are evil rapists, but it's definitely on the mind. It's kind of brainwashed in my repeated warnings at this point.
inkdust: (Default)

Re: OP here

[personal profile] inkdust 2014-03-01 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, pretty much.
applemagpie: (cass)

Re: OP here

[personal profile] applemagpie 2014-03-01 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
This is very true. As a woman, you pretty much are indoctrinated to believe that almost every man is a potential threat. I can't even have a phone call with my mother, without her reminding me to not wear headphones when I go out to walk somewhere, so I don't get raped.
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Re: OP here

[personal profile] grausam 2014-03-01 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
this. I don't want to be influenced by it, but all the warnings you get (and rape culture) kinda puts the responsibility on you.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2014-03-02 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Every time I see a comment like this I thing: Really? Really? So I'm a woman who wasn't "educated" about being scared all the time or just other people life in a very unsafe environment. Because one thing is being careful, specially when a guy is being creepy, other is to think always in the worst case scenario.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2014-03-02 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I think*
live*

Ugh, I'm to tired to type correctly.

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nyxelestia: Rose Icon (Default)

Re: OP here

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-03-02 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
I think as I explained it once to someone: "Yeah, 99 of the guys I meet might be perfectly fine, but all it would take is that 1 to completely fuck me up and fuck up my life, and I have no idea which one is which, so I have to assume every guy is that 1."
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Re: OP here

[personal profile] caerbannog 2014-03-02 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much yeah. A guy would hopefully not be a rapist but if they're acting creepy (intentionally or not) it would set off creeper-warning bells and I'd want him to fuck off stat. Err on the side of caution and all that.

Eta: Then every now and then you might have the experience that verges beyond creepy and kind of...refreshes those warnings and brings them all back to mind.

Edited 2014-03-02 04:45 (UTC)

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not SJW-ing, that's paranoia. And while I wouldn't agree with it rationally, I completely understand it.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think thats a SJW thing at all. That's a "ladies growing up and living in rape culture" thing. And that was not terrible game imo, that's completely inappropriate and creepy. Or both, I guess.
grausam: calm (calm)

Re: OP here

[personal profile] grausam 2014-03-01 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
well, now that you point it out... I mean, that's a really weird pick up line and he's basically asking in a roundabout fashion if you're alone (and apparently cuckling to himself afterwards).

I wouldn't think of it at first, but it's definitely an afterthought.
If you think that's unreasonable, try growing up as somebody who gets the responsibility dumped on them to "stay safe" wherever you go. If your parents talk about it often enough, you can't help thinking about it.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2014-03-02 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
???

I don't know about you, but I was raised as a kid to never respond to "are your parents home?" with "No." If they're not home, you say they're busy and can't come to the phone/door right now because you never admit to being home alone. The idea that a guy would use a line kids are specifically warned about as a pick-up line is bizarre to me. Of COURSE he sounds like a thief/murderer/rapist.

Though I admit, I would probably be offended at the condescension, not frightened. Give me my goddamn pizza, boy.
nyxelestia: Rose Icon (Default)

"Are you attempting to rape me, good sir?"

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-03-02 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I wouldn't actually ask that, but faced with that situation, I would definitely - and pointedly - ask him if he just asked a defenseless teenage girl if she was home alone and why he wanted to know that. Imply malicious intent, then back off and say, "I know you were probably just trying to make a joke, but it sounds creepy because of all the stuff I just said, so please don't."

And then grab the receipt and ask when it became store policy to not let kids pay for pizza, because as far as I know most only implement that if you pay with credit cards, if at all.